APU fuel burn does not matter
07-11-2024, 11:46 AM
#121
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We’re talking about air conditioning here, chill (pun intended). This is exactly the sort of thing professional bean counter can do. They look at the data, they see that: turn off APU = more money but burn APU = less money. It’s not rocket science or MCAS or complicated gate usage. If ground air sucks, write it up. If company cares, they fix it. If company doesn’t care, run APU and then at least there is a paper trail.
the irony is the original poster even gave an estimate of how much it costs to run the APU, and then subjectively decided “see, it’s not worth it.” Exactly what someone says when they’re not paying the bill tbh
the irony is the original poster even gave an estimate of how much it costs to run the APU, and then subjectively decided “see, it’s not worth it.” Exactly what someone says when they’re not paying the bill tbh
07-12-2024, 09:13 AM
#122
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If only we could get APUs to run on cow farts. Until the terminal and offices turn off AC and heat, my work environment will emulate those work environments by any means neccesary. You are hosting 100-200 customers, act like it.
07-12-2024, 09:20 AM
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We’re talking about air conditioning here, chill (pun intended). This is exactly the sort of thing professional bean counter can do. They look at the data, they see that: turn off APU = more money but burn APU = less money. It’s not rocket science or MCAS or complicated gate usage. If ground air sucks, write it up. If company cares, they fix it. If company doesn’t care, run APU and then at least there is a paper trail.
the irony is the original poster even gave an estimate of how much it costs to run the APU, and then subjectively decided “see, it’s not worth it.” Exactly what someone says when they’re not paying the bill tbh
the irony is the original poster even gave an estimate of how much it costs to run the APU, and then subjectively decided “see, it’s not worth it.” Exactly what someone says when they’re not paying the bill tbh
Further, about those gate A/Cs. Depedning on the type of aircraft there can be about 55 kinks in the air hose. Also, said air hose is sitting on the hot ramp (summertime those ramp surface temps can get well over 135 degrees). Winter same, sitting on the ice cold pavement. Couple that with the multitude of kinks and you get really bad, hot/cold airflow most of the time. Some aircraft are better, as they sit higher and the external air port is located in a good position to alleviate the kink issues. However, that air hose still is resting on that scorching/freezing pavement.
Turn on the APU, stop torturing the pax. Real simple.
07-12-2024, 03:58 PM
#127
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Any good Miata track driver knows HP can just mask poor technique. Nothing is more fun than passing a Mustang in the braking zone. Sure, they will pass me again halfway down the next straight, but that gives me a chance to show them on the next corner that HP has its limits.
07-12-2024, 04:12 PM
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Any good Miata track driver knows HP can just mask poor technique. Nothing is more fun than passing a Mustang in the braking zone. Sure, they will pass me again halfway down the next straight, but that gives me a chance to show them on the next corner that HP has its limits.
07-13-2024, 11:11 AM
#129
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The paying customers are paying the bill by purchasing tickets on our repsective airlines. So if the aircraft is hot/cold, the APU goes on. Period. We even have relief for that in our FOM (pax comfort trumps all). Stop torturing customers.
Further, about those gate A/Cs. Depedning on the type of aircraft there can be about 55 kinks in the air hose. Also, said air hose is sitting on the hot ramp (summertime those ramp surface temps can get well over 135 degrees). Winter same, sitting on the ice cold pavement. Couple that with the multitude of kinks and you get really bad, hot/cold airflow most of the time. Some aircraft are better, as they sit higher and the external air port is located in a good position to alleviate the kink issues. However, that air hose still is resting on that scorching/freezing pavement.
Turn on the APU, stop torturing the pax. Real simple.
Further, about those gate A/Cs. Depedning on the type of aircraft there can be about 55 kinks in the air hose. Also, said air hose is sitting on the hot ramp (summertime those ramp surface temps can get well over 135 degrees). Winter same, sitting on the ice cold pavement. Couple that with the multitude of kinks and you get really bad, hot/cold airflow most of the time. Some aircraft are better, as they sit higher and the external air port is located in a good position to alleviate the kink issues. However, that air hose still is resting on that scorching/freezing pavement.
Turn on the APU, stop torturing the pax. Real simple.
hey man do you want to read my entire comment or just type angrily? Quote: If ground air sucks, write it up. If company cares, they fix it. If company doesn’t care, run APU and then at least there is a paper trail.
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