End of 2021 salary survey
12-20-2021, 07:09 AM
#1
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,794
End of 2021 salary survey
2021 is coming to a close. The hiring is back on and firing on all cylinders. Should you leave ULCC for a legacy? Legacy for FedEx? SWA for UAL in chase of an upgrade? How accurate are the pay scales on APC and the sliding ruler? What role do work rules play into the equation? Many questions can be answered on this thread.
The intent of this thread is to help people make informed decisions especially of this magnitude. I know some people frown on sharing this info, and I'd like to ask them if they don't want to contribute to refrain from derailing this thread. As such, I've asked the mods to keep the thread clear of unhelpful posts.
Here is the suggested format:
Airline
Fleet (if applicable)
Payscale year
W-2 wage
Retirement/Bonus
Block hours flown
Days worked
Commuter status
I'll start.
SWA
6th year FO
$292.9k gross pay (wages + taxable per diem + excess B-plan as cash)
$38.5k NEC/B-plan (maxed out)
$7.5k non-taxable per diem
835 hours of block
177 days worked this year
Live in domicile, so I hustle a bit.
The intent of this thread is to help people make informed decisions especially of this magnitude. I know some people frown on sharing this info, and I'd like to ask them if they don't want to contribute to refrain from derailing this thread. As such, I've asked the mods to keep the thread clear of unhelpful posts.
Here is the suggested format:
Airline
Fleet (if applicable)
Payscale year
W-2 wage
Retirement/Bonus
Block hours flown
Days worked
Commuter status
I'll start.
SWA
6th year FO
$292.9k gross pay (wages + taxable per diem + excess B-plan as cash)
$38.5k NEC/B-plan (maxed out)
$7.5k non-taxable per diem
835 hours of block
177 days worked this year
Live in domicile, so I hustle a bit.
Last edited by RJSAviator76; 12-20-2021 at 07:38 AM.
12-20-2021, 07:39 AM
#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2020
Posts: 379
American
737 FO
3rd year
wages: 203K
401k: 32K
Total wages plus 16% 401K: 235K
Per diem: no idea, I am looking at my paystub and it might be @7K
@340 block hours.
Days worked: no idea but I am generally lazy.
I am a commuter.
Was on 55hr LOA leave for a couple of month and didn't really start working till April. I wont make 235K this year because AA paid me a lot to get my 2 COVID shots (@8K each shot) plus I had 10 days off for COVID 2x (probably 5K each removal).
A realistic number is 200K total (wages plus 16% 401K).
737 FO
3rd year
wages: 203K
401k: 32K
Total wages plus 16% 401K: 235K
Per diem: no idea, I am looking at my paystub and it might be @7K
@340 block hours.
Days worked: no idea but I am generally lazy.
I am a commuter.
Was on 55hr LOA leave for a couple of month and didn't really start working till April. I wont make 235K this year because AA paid me a lot to get my 2 COVID shots (@8K each shot) plus I had 10 days off for COVID 2x (probably 5K each removal).
A realistic number is 200K total (wages plus 16% 401K).
Last edited by Armyguy; 12-20-2021 at 08:07 AM.
12-20-2021, 10:34 AM
#7
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Position: On the hotel shuttle
Posts: 5,953
DAL
Year 12 737 CA
W2 = $405,000
B Fund = $38,500
Per Diem = $8,700
Block = 845
Long driver
Averaged about 16 days/mo.
Averaged about 0.75 greenslips (premium pay)/mo.
Thankful every day.
Year 12 737 CA
W2 = $405,000
B Fund = $38,500
Per Diem = $8,700
Block = 845
Long driver
Averaged about 16 days/mo.
Averaged about 0.75 greenslips (premium pay)/mo.
Thankful every day.
12-20-2021, 10:56 AM
#8
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 135
Thank you RJS and everyone for participating. I know when I was making the choice to repatriate and join a 121 these types of threads were invaluable. I hope this helps others like it did me…
SWA
4th year FO w/ 2 months of 5th year FO
Wages (incl Per Diem): $254,018.82
NEC: $36,965.92
Total Compensation: $290,984.74
Block Time: 541:59
Days Worked: 172
Live in domicile with about an hour drive
Rumor has it 3-4% of profit share coming but I would account for it next year.
As others stated and just to echo…Thankful for every day!!!
SWA
4th year FO w/ 2 months of 5th year FO
Wages (incl Per Diem): $254,018.82
NEC: $36,965.92
Total Compensation: $290,984.74
Block Time: 541:59
Days Worked: 172
Live in domicile with about an hour drive
Rumor has it 3-4% of profit share coming but I would account for it next year.
As others stated and just to echo…Thankful for every day!!!
12-20-2021, 11:35 AM
#10
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: A-320
Posts: 680
G4
A320
Year 8 CA (yes not a typo)
wages: 184k
401k: 18k
Profit sharing:$4k
Per Diem: 1k
Block 177 hours
At work 54 days, plus another 141 days unused reserve
6 hotel rooms for the year
Above doesn't include recurrent training days
Live in base but never pick up, drop 1 reserve day per month and cover it with PTO
A320
Year 8 CA (yes not a typo)
wages: 184k
401k: 18k
Profit sharing:$4k
Per Diem: 1k
Block 177 hours
At work 54 days, plus another 141 days unused reserve
6 hotel rooms for the year
Above doesn't include recurrent training days
Live in base but never pick up, drop 1 reserve day per month and cover it with PTO
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