End of 2021 salary survey
02-02-2022, 10:09 PM
#601
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: On the bus,seat 0A
Posts: 3,356
I don’t understand all the Netjets hate! I think any time you can work half the year and make over $360k flying airplanes, you’re doing pretty doggone good in my book. Would I go there now? No, because I hope to be in the left seat at Brown in the next few years, but I definitely would have accepted an offer from them years ago when I was in the regional world.
Hats off to the Netjets folks and what they have been able to achieve in their sector of the industry!
Hats off to the Netjets folks and what they have been able to achieve in their sector of the industry!
02-02-2022, 10:31 PM
#602
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: 737 pilot
Posts: 83
SWA
FO 6Yr
$292K total comp
Avg’d 129 TFP/mo
13.5 work days/mo (8 nights away from home)
Live in Base, 40% seniority
I’m not a high time flyer, I usually average 110 TFP/mo, 12-14 days of work. I have to balance my AF Reserve job and kids’ sports, so I care more about days of the week and total number of days gone from home more than anything in my bidding. I usually block 600-750 hrs per year, but I don’t really keep track of that as much as I do days at work. If I’m at work, I want to be as efficient as possible and credit as much as possible. I prefer to work 12 days/mo and block 600+ than work 16-18 days/mo and block 400. But that’s me and my personal schedule needs.
FO 6Yr
$292K total comp
Avg’d 129 TFP/mo
13.5 work days/mo (8 nights away from home)
Live in Base, 40% seniority
I’m not a high time flyer, I usually average 110 TFP/mo, 12-14 days of work. I have to balance my AF Reserve job and kids’ sports, so I care more about days of the week and total number of days gone from home more than anything in my bidding. I usually block 600-750 hrs per year, but I don’t really keep track of that as much as I do days at work. If I’m at work, I want to be as efficient as possible and credit as much as possible. I prefer to work 12 days/mo and block 600+ than work 16-18 days/mo and block 400. But that’s me and my personal schedule needs.
02-03-2022, 05:30 AM
#603
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 80
i don’t understand why Pilots are only paid by flight hour. Sounds like you guys are working long days and should be getting time and a half or double time for anything over 8 hours a day. Also, by only getting paid by the flight hour you are effectively only getting a portion of that pay per actual hour worked. So you make 150 per flight hour but in essence I’m guessing you are making way less than that per hour on the clock.
02-03-2022, 06:14 AM
#604
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 191
I’m sorry you’re having so much trouble with simple math. Approximately half of the days he worked, and approximately half the days he didn’t. 1/2 + 1/2 = 1. Where did you go to school? 🤣
02-03-2022, 07:23 AM
#605
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 56
max legal contribution between employee and employer to 401k is $57,000. That’s why you haven’t seen anyone say they’ve contributed 70k to their 401k.
02-03-2022, 08:00 AM
#606
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 307
i don’t understand why Pilots are only paid by flight hour. Sounds like you guys are working long days and should be getting time and a half or double time for anything over 8 hours a day. Also, by only getting paid by the flight hour you are effectively only getting a portion of that pay per actual hour worked. So you make 150 per flight hour but in essence I’m guessing you are making way less than that per hour on the clock.
I did the math…
You’re at work 24 hours a day for 16 days a month… approximately 4,600 hours a year.
Most regional pilots were making approximately $24,000 a year.
24,000/4,600= approximately $5 an hour.
I was making more money then that when I was 12 years old working on a farm. I decided there was better ways to spend my time. Many others my age in flight training agreed. A bunch of “would be” pilots walked away which is an often overlooked contributing factor to the current shortage. At least the industry has corrected itself and entry level wages have sky rocketed
02-03-2022, 08:32 AM
#607
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,609
This was my rational for not becoming an airline pilot ten years ago when I first considered it.
I did the math…
You’re at work 24 hours a day for 16 days a month… approximately 4,600 hours a year.
Most regional pilots were making approximately $24,000 a year.
24,000/4,600= approximately $5 an hour.
I was making more money then that when I was 12 years old working on a farm. I decided there was better ways to spend my time. Many others my age in flight training agreed. A bunch of “would be” pilots walked away which is an often overlooked contributing factor to the current shortage. At least the industry has corrected itself and entry level wages have sky rocketed
I did the math…
You’re at work 24 hours a day for 16 days a month… approximately 4,600 hours a year.
Most regional pilots were making approximately $24,000 a year.
24,000/4,600= approximately $5 an hour.
I was making more money then that when I was 12 years old working on a farm. I decided there was better ways to spend my time. Many others my age in flight training agreed. A bunch of “would be” pilots walked away which is an often overlooked contributing factor to the current shortage. At least the industry has corrected itself and entry level wages have sky rocketed
02-03-2022, 08:46 AM
#608
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Joined APC: Sep 2016
Posts: 6,843
This was my rational for not becoming an airline pilot ten years ago when I first considered it.
I did the math…
You’re at work 24 hours a day for 16 days a month… approximately 4,600 hours a year.
Most regional pilots were making approximately $24,000 a year.
24,000/4,600= approximately $5 an hour.
I was making more money then that when I was 12 years old working on a farm. I decided there was better ways to spend my time. Many others my age in flight training agreed. A bunch of “would be” pilots walked away which is an often overlooked contributing factor to the current shortage. At least the industry has corrected itself and entry level wages have sky rocketed
I did the math…
You’re at work 24 hours a day for 16 days a month… approximately 4,600 hours a year.
Most regional pilots were making approximately $24,000 a year.
24,000/4,600= approximately $5 an hour.
I was making more money then that when I was 12 years old working on a farm. I decided there was better ways to spend my time. Many others my age in flight training agreed. A bunch of “would be” pilots walked away which is an often overlooked contributing factor to the current shortage. At least the industry has corrected itself and entry level wages have sky rocketed
02-03-2022, 08:47 AM
#609
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 1,028
I think he's on to something about would be pilots walking away from the career in the past. I don't know about 10 years ago, but I know of plenty in the late 2000s who either quit or changed career paths because of the recession/age 65 debacle. You can only put your life on hold for so long...
Last edited by SSlow; 02-03-2022 at 09:05 AM.
02-03-2022, 08:59 AM
#610
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,923
This was my rational for not becoming an airline pilot ten years ago when I first considered it.
I did the math…
You’re at work 24 hours a day for 16 days a month… approximately 4,600 hours a year.
Most regional pilots were making approximately $24,000 a year.
24,000/4,600= approximately $5 an hour.
I was making more money then that when I was 12 years old working on a farm. I decided there was better ways to spend my time. Many others my age in flight training agreed. A bunch of “would be” pilots walked away which is an often overlooked contributing factor to the current shortage. At least the industry has corrected itself and entry level wages have sky rocketed
I did the math…
You’re at work 24 hours a day for 16 days a month… approximately 4,600 hours a year.
Most regional pilots were making approximately $24,000 a year.
24,000/4,600= approximately $5 an hour.
I was making more money then that when I was 12 years old working on a farm. I decided there was better ways to spend my time. Many others my age in flight training agreed. A bunch of “would be” pilots walked away which is an often overlooked contributing factor to the current shortage. At least the industry has corrected itself and entry level wages have sky rocketed
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