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Old 01-25-2022, 07:06 PM
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Why would they?

Why wouldn’t they be?


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Old 01-25-2022, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
They may/may not be worthy of consideration, but they are not a major airline.
Netjets has over 450 aircraft and 2500 pilots. They have about 750 aircraft if you include EJM.

According to Google, the latest 2021 Netjets revenue is at 1.3 billion. Major airlines are defined as generating more than $1-billion annually in revenue.

Here are my numbers

NetJets 15 yr Small Cabin Capt
7 on 7 off schedule
$363k gross
$49k FDP (incl in gross)
$7600 per diem
$11310 401k Match
$16000 FDP 401K
($46810 total 401K with company and my contribution)
580 hours flown
178 days worked
4 weeks of vacation (each week is 21 days off)

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Old 01-25-2022, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by HonoGV
How about UAL guys who got triple time for the month of Jan?


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Old 01-25-2022, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ASACapt
Netjets has over 450 aircraft and 2500 pilots. They have about 750 aircraft if you include EJM.

According to Google, the latest 2021 Netjets revenue is at 1.3 billion. Major airlines are defined as generating more than $1-billion annually in revenue.

Here are my numbers

NetJets 15 yr Small Cabin Capt
7 on 7 off schedule
$363k gross
$49k FDP (incl in gross)
$7600 per diem
$11310 401k Match
$16000 FDP 401K
($46810 total 401K with company and my contribution)
580 hours flown
178 days worked
4 weeks of vacation (each week is 21 days off)
Is Netjets part 121? If not, it doesn’t meet the definition. It has nothing to do with the quality of the job or profitability of the company.

That pay sounds very nice, but it’s not exceptional (or even very good) for a fifteen year captain at a major airline.
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Old 01-25-2022, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ASACapt
Netjets has over 450 aircraft and 2500 pilots. They have about 750 aircraft if you include EJM.

According to Google, the latest 2021 Netjets revenue is at 1.3 billion. Major airlines are defined as generating more than $1-billion annually in revenue.

Here are my numbers

NetJets 15 yr Small Cabin Capt
7 on 7 off schedule
$363k gross
$49k FDP (incl in gross)
$7600 per diem
$11310 401k Match
$16000 FDP 401K
($46810 total 401K with company and my contribution)
580 hours flown
178 days worked
4 weeks of vacation (each week is 21 days off)
but the work rules. Min rest and go wait around at a FBO. I’ve done that before...No thanks.
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Old 01-25-2022, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tnkrdrvr
Is Netjets part 121? If not, it doesn’t meet the definition. It has nothing to do with the quality of the job or profitability of the company.

That pay sounds very nice, but it’s not exceptional (or even very good) for a fifteen year captain at a major airline.

The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year.

It’s does not specify as 121 or 135. They’re both air carriers.

I agree that Netjets is in it’s own niche. But it does meet the definition by revenue alone.

You don’t think $363,000 is very good?

My $$/day, block hours, days worked were well in line with others that made less.
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Old 01-25-2022, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
but the work rules. Min rest and go wait around at a FBO. I’ve done that before...No thanks.

The majors don’t have min turns? Do they have long waits at some hub or out station locations?

Everyone has some crappy part of their job. No denying that. Our contract has improved enough that the suck keeps getting less and less while the pay keeps getting better.

Sorry for the minor thread de-rail.

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Old 01-25-2022, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ASACapt
Netjets has over 450 aircraft and 2500 pilots. They have about 750 aircraft if you include EJM.

According to Google, the latest 2021 Netjets revenue is at 1.3 billion. Major airlines are defined as generating more than $1-billion annually in revenue.

Here are my numbers

NetJets 15 yr Small Cabin Capt
7 on 7 off schedule
$363k gross
$49k FDP (incl in gross)
$7600 per diem
$11310 401k Match
$16000 FDP 401K
($46810 total 401K with company and my contribution)
580 hours flown
178 days worked
4 weeks of vacation (each week is 21 days off)
you forgot to mention the signing bonus, which you obviously included in your gross. Also the 16000 FDP is the money you earn from FDP not company contributions. I am very happy Netjets pilot finally making decent money. But please stop trying to put lipstick on a pig. Still a much harder job than the airlines. Still apples and oranges. Btw your 178 days is not plausible, since you are on the 7 and 7 you would have to do a lot of extended days to make that gross. What happen when the 2.5 extend day is over? The money majors and Legacy and cargo is attainable during normal times. So why are you so butt hurt no one is talking about Netjets here? You can always start one on the fractional section.
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Originally Posted by ASACapt
The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year.

It’s does not specify as 121 or 135. They’re both air carriers.

I agree that Netjets is in it’s own niche. But it does meet the definition by revenue alone.

You don’t think $363,000 is very good?

My $$/day, block hours, days worked were well in line with others that made less.
lol I think you must own Stock in NetJets.

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Old 01-26-2022, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ASACapt
The United States Department of Transportation defines a major carrier or major airline carrier as a U.S.-based airline that posts more than $1 billion in revenue during a fiscal year.

It’s does not specify as 121 or 135. They’re both air carriers.

I agree that Netjets is in it’s own niche. But it does meet the definition by revenue alone.

You don’t think $363,000 is very good?

My $$/day, block hours, days worked were well in line with others that made less.
It says that the definition of major carrier or major airline carrier as “a U.S. based airline that posts more than $1 billion.” NetJets is US based and has the revenue but it’s not an airline. Sun Country will get there soon.
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