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Old 01-23-2022, 05:30 PM
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Little late to the party but

JB 320 CA Yr 13
260k W2
41.6k DC
220 hrs block
71 nights in a hotel
commute and never pick up anything
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Old 01-23-2022, 07:06 PM
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SWA
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Year 4 FO
W-2 $160k
401k DC $24k
Per Diem $3,100
block hours - 508
Days/month about 13
Live in base

I averaged 99ish TFP/month including both early year covid downturn, and late-year premium gravy slurping. Best month about 120tfp, worst about 75 tfp. I didn't pick up a ton of open time during the chaos months so I didn't really have much pay inflation from deadheads or premium. I probably could have added at least 30% to this total with even one or two extra trips picked up each month, but my kids are prioritized over extra flying.
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Old 01-23-2022, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by G4poor
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I feel like I’m wasting a very lucrative career staying here after seeing some of these other posts. I keep telling myself the next contract will be industry standard.
When I was job hunting, the current allegiant contract had just been signed. Recruiter told me to get 500 hrs anywhere else and come back. Wha... what? 500 hrs later I was getting interview invites for majors and legacies. They sure were full of themselves that year, dunno how it looks now but you guys are overdue for a new payscale.
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Old 01-23-2022, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
SWA trips are extremely productive. They probably fly more legs/day than any non-regional carrier. So they do work hard, but it's efficient.
An easy comparison is spirit and SWA. When I was there, Spirit trips were often 2-3 legs a day, overnights 15+ hrs were not unusual. SWA trips are often 4-5 legs/day, overnights right at 12 hrs are not typical but not exactly uncommon either.

An extra 10-20% work per day translates into 10-20% more pay for the same days worked. It's a grind, but the $$$ is there. The 10+ yr CA upgrade at SWA is a huge negative for a lot of people especially those who didn't get to SWA until their late 40s or 50s, but if you can handle the hustle and grind and the current hostile HR environment, yea there's $$$ at SWA.
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Old 01-23-2022, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by flensr
An easy comparison is spirit and SWA. When I was there, Spirit trips were often 2-3 legs a day, overnights 15+ hrs were not unusual. SWA trips are often 4-5 legs/day, overnights right at 12 hrs are not typical but not exactly uncommon either.

An extra 10-20% work per day translates into 10-20% more pay for the same days worked. It's a grind, but the $$$ is there. The 10+ yr CA upgrade at SWA is a huge negative for a lot of people especially those who didn't get to SWA until their late 40s or 50s, but if you can handle the hustle and grind and the current hostile HR environment, yea there's $$$ at SWA.
NK: Most of my 4 day trips have 3 or 4 legs total, 15 hour duty (total), 19 hour credit. Start late, finnish early, so commutable both ends. 20+ hour dayovers (no typo). The 4 day trips that get 2 to 3 hours more credit are uncommutable, have 3 legs a day, and 12 hour layovers. It works for me, but definitely more money to be made at SWA.
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Old 01-24-2022, 08:09 AM
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91/135
2nd year FO CL 601
$60,000 gross
$11,300 per diem
4% 401k match
550 hours flown
210 days worked


Reading these makes me feel really overworked lol
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Old 01-24-2022, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by lionsfan07
91/135
2nd year FO CL 601
$60,000 gross
$11,300 per diem
4% 401k match
550 hours flown
210 days worked


Reading these makes me feel really overworked lol
CL601 FO? You’re also really under paid too 🥴
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Old 01-24-2022, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by lionsfan07
91/135
2nd year FO CL 601
$60,000 gross
$11,300 per diem
4% 401k match
550 hours flown
210 days worked


Reading these makes me feel really overworked lol
Ouch. Did 91K/135 until 2013. Corrected for inflation I would have made $110K, before PD (and company 401k match was 6%), if I had worked that much. And I flew a light twin (CJ3).
Not just overworked, underpaid too.
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Old 01-24-2022, 09:23 AM
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I’d like to hear gross for the month of January. I’ve heard some astronomical numbers.
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Old 01-24-2022, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Ouch. Did 91K/135 until 2013. Corrected for inflation I would have made $110K, before PD (and company 401k match was 6%), if I had worked that much. And I flew a light twin (CJ3).
Not just overworked, underpaid too.
I'm going to go to the regionals in the spring. Hoping the chance to make the jump to the majors is better there. Plus knowing my schedule more than 12 hours out. I'm not sure exactly how much we should be making but id think it would be in the $100,000 neighborhood since there's net jet guys making more on smaller equipment, but maybe I'm wrong.

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CL601 FO? You’re also really under paid too 🥴
yeah, reading on here really made me see that. they gave us a rise to $75,000 this year but were still underpaid, just less underpaid now.
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