End of 2021 salary survey
01-19-2022, 07:14 PM
#441
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,720
Lots of opportunities for $$$ at SWA, especially this past year. Sometimes you have to hustle, this past year you just had to show up.
01-19-2022, 07:33 PM
#442
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,123
SWA trips are extremely productive. They probably fly more legs/day than any non-regional carrier. So they do work hard, but it's efficient.
01-19-2022, 08:22 PM
#443
Gets Weekend Reserve
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,794
Eh… not really.
I fly 3 legs at most per day and I trade out of anything more than that unless it’s up and down California.
We make our money on our work rules. For example, earlier show = premium all day. Reroutes also pay a lot. Get JA’d? That’s double time or full rigs whichever is greater.
The only people at SWA who make guarantee are line holders who never pick up and never get messed with. Our reserves always make more than guarantee simply by showing up. The only way they make guarantee only is if they never get called - fat chance of that these days.
And that’s assuming you’re not picking up anything.
If you pick up, you can kill it.
01-19-2022, 08:35 PM
#444
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,923
Eh… not really.
I fly 3 legs at most per day and I trade out of anything more than that unless it’s up and down California.
We make our money on our work rules. For example, earlier show = premium all day. Reroutes also pay a lot. Get JA’d? That’s double time or full rigs whichever is greater.
The only people at SWA who make guarantee are line holders who never pick up and never get messed with. Our reserves always make more than guarantee simply by showing up. The only way they make guarantee only is if they never get called - fat chance of that these days.
And that’s assuming you’re not picking up anything.
If you pick up, you can kill it.
I fly 3 legs at most per day and I trade out of anything more than that unless it’s up and down California.
We make our money on our work rules. For example, earlier show = premium all day. Reroutes also pay a lot. Get JA’d? That’s double time or full rigs whichever is greater.
The only people at SWA who make guarantee are line holders who never pick up and never get messed with. Our reserves always make more than guarantee simply by showing up. The only way they make guarantee only is if they never get called - fat chance of that these days.
And that’s assuming you’re not picking up anything.
If you pick up, you can kill it.
01-20-2022, 01:41 AM
#447
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 44
I’m going to rank jobs at the majors based my perception.
Overall:
1. FedEx, UPS
2. Delta, American, United
3. SWA
4. Hawaiian, JetBlue
5. Alaska, Frontier, Spirit, Sun Country, Kalitta, Atlas
6. Allegiant
Narrow Body:
1. UPS
2. SWA
3. Delta, American, United, FedEx
4. JetBlue
5. Alaska, Frontier, Spirit, Sun Country, Hawaiian
6. Allegiant, Atlas
Wide Body:
1. FedEx, UPS, Delta, American, United
2. Hawaiian,
3. Kallita, Atlas
Overall:
1. FedEx, UPS
2. Delta, American, United
3. SWA
4. Hawaiian, JetBlue
5. Alaska, Frontier, Spirit, Sun Country, Kalitta, Atlas
6. Allegiant
Narrow Body:
1. UPS
2. SWA
3. Delta, American, United, FedEx
4. JetBlue
5. Alaska, Frontier, Spirit, Sun Country, Hawaiian
6. Allegiant, Atlas
Wide Body:
1. FedEx, UPS, Delta, American, United
2. Hawaiian,
3. Kallita, Atlas
Last edited by G4poor; 01-20-2022 at 01:59 AM.
01-20-2022, 06:51 AM
#448
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,831
Also, given the current staffing shortage, the company is offer 1.5X & 2X pay so that is awesome.
I can typically average about 9 TFP/day during “normal times” but now it’s just off the charts. I’m talking like 12-15.
Just saw a 4-day that at double time paid 59 TFP or $14,493.
01-20-2022, 04:14 PM
#449
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,141
I’m going to rank jobs at the majors based my perception.
Overall:
1. FedEx, UPS
2. Delta, American, United
3. SWA
4. Hawaiian, JetBlue
5. Alaska, Frontier, Spirit, Sun Country, Kalitta, Atlas
6. Allegiant
Narrow Body:
1. UPS
2. SWA
3. Delta, American, United, FedEx
4. JetBlue
5. Alaska, Frontier, Spirit, Sun Country, Hawaiian
6. Allegiant, Atlas
Wide Body:
1. FedEx, UPS, Delta, American, United
2. Hawaiian,
3. Kallita, Atlas
Overall:
1. FedEx, UPS
2. Delta, American, United
3. SWA
4. Hawaiian, JetBlue
5. Alaska, Frontier, Spirit, Sun Country, Kalitta, Atlas
6. Allegiant
Narrow Body:
1. UPS
2. SWA
3. Delta, American, United, FedEx
4. JetBlue
5. Alaska, Frontier, Spirit, Sun Country, Hawaiian
6. Allegiant, Atlas
Wide Body:
1. FedEx, UPS, Delta, American, United
2. Hawaiian,
3. Kallita, Atlas
Not me, but it would be nice if someone took all these numbers and put it on a spreadsheet to share so that it’s more objective.
01-20-2022, 07:53 PM
#450
Occasional box hauler
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,804
I agree with you, but his rack and stack mirrors (almost exactly) the one I came up with in the spring of 2017 as I prepared to start applying. My rankings skewed towards financially stable companies and total compensation. Other factors seemed very subjective.
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