End of 2021 salary survey
#341
New Hire
Joined APC: Dec 2021
Posts: 2
Airline: FedEx
Fleet: B777
Payscale: year 3 FO
W-2 wage: 620K (Worked extensions in my favor)
Block hours flown 160 FO and maybe 100 RFO ?? 12 total landings in 2021
Days worked: 118 but realistically much less cut days off both ends with double DHDs
Commuter status: Commute but only do deadhead front and back trips so Not applicable
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Fleet: B777
Payscale: year 3 FO
W-2 wage: 620K (Worked extensions in my favor)
Block hours flown 160 FO and maybe 100 RFO ?? 12 total landings in 2021
Days worked: 118 but realistically much less cut days off both ends with double DHDs
Commuter status: Commute but only do deadhead front and back trips so Not applicable
A family member of mine who is a 777 CA made 1.1m… Dont think he will post here
#343
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,681
Unfortunately, it's not a really simple answer due to the management structure at UPS. Without going into the two different entities (IPA and Management), all APDs are management. Sim and VPT (fixed based sims) instructors are both cpt and FOs. When new instructors are hired, they tend to hire FOs for obvious reasons. But CPTs are hired too. More importantly, for guys like me who've been teaching for decades, you're not sent back to the line when you upgrade. IPA types can do checking, but only MVs and PVs, assuming you're familiar with AQP training. As such, there are many like me hired as an FO and who have stayed on after upgrading, so there are lots of IPA CPT sim instructors. There are a few ground school, non-pilot types, who teach procedures and systems. Poorly. All sim instructors are either line or management pilots. Management mostly does CQ (recurrent) or LOEs. Initial and upgrade is seldom taught by non-IPA instructors. (at least on my fleet)
When we are working in training, we bid for pay. In other words, we go through the bid packet and pick out the lines with the highest credit value and bid in that order. Our min guarantee is 75 hours per 28 day pay period. Lately the lines have been built above guarantee, so there is some soft credit we get compensated for. For each instructional day we are given an override of $125, this amount hasn't changed in over 20 years, so many of us would like that addressed. If you do sim support, no override for you. We are obligated to teach 14 days out of 28. If you do more days you get 4 hours of pay for each event, plus the $125, if applicable. This can be quite nice if it's a short event. Think of a two hour refresher sim, ect. I would say most of us do it because we like to teach and the hours tend to be easier on the body, not so much for the pay.
When we are working in training, we bid for pay. In other words, we go through the bid packet and pick out the lines with the highest credit value and bid in that order. Our min guarantee is 75 hours per 28 day pay period. Lately the lines have been built above guarantee, so there is some soft credit we get compensated for. For each instructional day we are given an override of $125, this amount hasn't changed in over 20 years, so many of us would like that addressed. If you do sim support, no override for you. We are obligated to teach 14 days out of 28. If you do more days you get 4 hours of pay for each event, plus the $125, if applicable. This can be quite nice if it's a short event. Think of a two hour refresher sim, ect. I would say most of us do it because we like to teach and the hours tend to be easier on the body, not so much for the pay.
#344
Airline: FedEx
Fleet: B777
Payscale: year 3 FO
W-2 wage: 620K (Worked extensions in my favor)
Block hours flown 160 FO and maybe 100 RFO ?? 12 total landings in 2021
Days worked: 118 but realistically much less cut days off both ends with double DHDs
Commuter status: Commute but only do deadhead front and back trips so Not applicable
A family member of mine who is a 777 CA made 1.1m… Dont think he will post here
Fleet: B777
Payscale: year 3 FO
W-2 wage: 620K (Worked extensions in my favor)
Block hours flown 160 FO and maybe 100 RFO ?? 12 total landings in 2021
Days worked: 118 but realistically much less cut days off both ends with double DHDs
Commuter status: Commute but only do deadhead front and back trips so Not applicable
A family member of mine who is a 777 CA made 1.1m… Dont think he will post here
#345
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,556
End of 2021 salary survey
JetBlue 190CA
Live in base
Bid rsv
Never pick up anything extra
Will finish tomorrow with 90 hours block YTD(probably equally as many hours DH and limo)
12 nights away from home
Final pay check says 203k
Plus 16% 401k
Plus a few hundred per diem
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Live in base
Bid rsv
Never pick up anything extra
Will finish tomorrow with 90 hours block YTD(probably equally as many hours DH and limo)
12 nights away from home
Final pay check says 203k
Plus 16% 401k
Plus a few hundred per diem
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
#346
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,091
JetBlue 190CA
Live in base
Bid rsv
Never pick up anything extra
Will finish tomorrow with 90 hours block YTD(probably equally as many hours DH and limo)
12 nights away from home
Final pay check says 203k
Plus 16% 401k
Plus a few hundred per diem
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Live in base
Bid rsv
Never pick up anything extra
Will finish tomorrow with 90 hours block YTD(probably equally as many hours DH and limo)
12 nights away from home
Final pay check says 203k
Plus 16% 401k
Plus a few hundred per diem
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
#347
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,323
JetBlue 190CA
Live in base
Bid rsv
Never pick up anything extra
Will finish tomorrow with 90 hours block YTD(probably equally as many hours DH and limo)
12 nights away from home
Final pay check says 203k
Plus 16% 401k
Plus a few hundred per diem
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Live in base
Bid rsv
Never pick up anything extra
Will finish tomorrow with 90 hours block YTD(probably equally as many hours DH and limo)
12 nights away from home
Final pay check says 203k
Plus 16% 401k
Plus a few hundred per diem
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
What’s your seniority? I’m coming over at 79% planning on rsv life most of the year (by choice).
#348
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2017
Position: F-15E
Posts: 14
Year 9 O-3 expecting year 10 O-4 pay next year plus year 8 flight pay (Google has my pay rate). Took my excessive COVID leave to flight instruct on the side instead of sitting SOF or top 3.
175 hours flown at work
106 flown outside of work. 85 as CFI 3k ish in payment. Priceless satisfaction flying in shorts soloing students and not sitting top 3.
175 hours flown at work
106 flown outside of work. 85 as CFI 3k ish in payment. Priceless satisfaction flying in shorts soloing students and not sitting top 3.
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