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Old 05-26-2021, 10:15 AM
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Maybe we should all wear socks that depict cops as pigs, while wearing our work uniforms too. But even that isn't why he lost his job which I already touched on. It's just in bad taste.
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Old 05-26-2021, 11:18 AM
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Actually it's not that hard to understand if you read the constitution. He spoke freely without fear of retaliation from the government, and the government never retaliated against him. Nobody showed up in a government vehicle and hauled him off to a concentration camp. I know this because his annoying ass still pops up in MSM articles from time to time.
I know that. You are missing my point.

Conservatives commit cancel culture too.

Right?
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Old 05-26-2021, 11:32 AM
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Actually it's not that hard to understand if you read the constitution. He spoke freely without fear of retaliation from the government, and the government never retaliated against him. Nobody showed up in a government vehicle and hauled him off to a concentration camp. I know this because his annoying ass still pops up in MSM articles from time to time.
Honest question. Do you think you'd be fired if the national anthem played in the terminal and you sat down, in uniform? What if you quietly took a knee? Where is that in the contract? This ain't the military. The right certainly treated him like trash for a non violent protest... Then when violent protests started, they screamed "if you'd just protested non - violently, we would have listened!" Right.

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Old 05-26-2021, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I know that. You are missing my point.

Conservatives commit cancel culture too.

Right?
I think you need to ask the question you really are looking for an answer to.

Are there some jerks that are conservatives? Yes.
Are some liberals jerks? Yes.

The answer is the same for “Are some (fill in your party here) hypocritics”?

But to ask if one party or the other is hypocritical on a subject as ambiguous as cancel culture is not going to reach the destination you are looking for.

It’s kinda like say, “But the Palestinians are right, aren’t they?” It’s a little more complicated than that.

A typical conservative is not going to have sympathy for Kaepernick. He’s a Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton type figure. He’s a race baiter that is out to get paid. He could have had more tact in voicing his thoughts, especially in the beginning. Just an opinion. Kaepernick used his voice. It’s not unfair or unwarranted to receive a response to that voice. Not that I think the opinions of conservatives affected his career in any meaningful way.

If there is a better example that you are referring to when speaking of conservatives, then let’s hear it.

But I think you’re trying to prove a point that you yourself have not fully articulated in your own consciousness. If you do know what you’re point is, then just say it. But you’re just going to keep spinning your wheels if you’re looking for a generic mea culpa on behalf of a mass group of people. No group is monolithic.
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Old 05-26-2021, 12:38 PM
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There is a difference in boycotting, which both sides do and up to this point most haven’t complained about, and doxing (canceling) an individual. One is just passive non-action, not patronizing. This happens every day and many times has nothing to do with politics. For example, I boycott the latest Flat Earth book because it’s nonsense and don’t feel it should be given any credibility. Actual cancelling is the overt attempts at using a mob (social media) to destroy one’s ability to feed, house, and clothe their family by going after the individual’s livelihood going forward. Just the thread of it (which is the goal the mob makes with making people examples of it) has a chilling effect on free speech and association that boycotting doesn’t have.

But if you want to call them both cancelling, ok. I think we all know the difference though. So if you choose not to see the difference, then we will have to agree to disagree. And I won’t try to have you cancelled for that view.
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Old 05-26-2021, 12:57 PM
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everybody thinks they “think for themselves,” and that other people don’t. so who actually does?
Folks that don’t blindly prescribe to a political party and literally everything they stand for are thinking for themselves. The parties are controlled by their extremes now and joining either one tells them you will support them no matter what they say, do, or believe.
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Old 05-26-2021, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I know that. You are missing my point.

Conservatives commit cancel culture too.

Right?
Yes some do, but not nearly on the level as seen from the left. And it never gets scaled up to the point that it would really disrupt anything, mainly because conservatives don't have a controlling interest in big tech. These days cancel culture almost always involves social media, especially twitter. Since the left controls all of this, they can just censor and de-platform any trending thought or group from the the right before it gets off the ground.

But to answer your question, yes it does happen but it is somewhat rare and uneventful.
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Old 05-26-2021, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by detpilot
Honest question. Do you think you'd be fired if the national anthem played in the terminal and you sat down, in uniform? What if you quietly took a knee? Where is that in the contract? This ain't the military. The right certainly treated him like trash for a non violent protest... Then when violent protests started, they screamed "if you'd just protested non - violently, we would have listened!" Right.

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Honest answer...

If I take an action at my place of employment, in my company uniform, and the end result is a huge chunk of the customer base becoming upset over my actions, then yes I would have the reasonable expectation of being in hot water with my employer. Also, I don't think any of us are household names in the spotlight either. It makes a difference.

Also, in societal terms protesting while at work in a private venue isn't really a thing in this country. Protesting is taking an action to show discontent with the government or a system controlled by elected officials in public, not in a football stadium full of paying customers. You don't protest against patrons in a private setting.

It's like this, I wouldn't get a job at a bar just so I could protest alcohol in the same bar while on the clock. That would be a very unintelligent thing to do, and that is what he did.

Great intentions end up not so great when you choose a horrible method of delivery.
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Old 05-26-2021, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
Yes some do, but not nearly on the level as seen from the left. And it never gets scaled up to the point that it would really disrupt anything, mainly because conservatives don't have a controlling interest in big tech. These days cancel culture almost always involves social media, especially twitter. Since the left controls all of this, they can just censor and de-platform any trending thought or group from the the right before it gets off the ground.

But to answer your question, yes it does happen but it is somewhat rare and uneventful.
Here are the sources of the top 10 Facebook posts from yesterday...

1) Franklin Graham
2) Fox News
3) Franklin Graham
4) Sean Hannity
5) Ben Shapiro
6) Ben Shapiro
7) Ben Shapiro
8) Ben Shapiro
9) Dan Bongino
10) Ben Shapiro
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Old 05-26-2021, 03:25 PM
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And Foxnews has more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined. But a lot.

And yet they cry about how dominate the "mainstream media" is even though they are THE mainstream media. And right wingers absolutely dominate the radio too. And apparently Facebook too
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