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Old 05-20-2021, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
no, discussion of the topic is not hate speech, but trying on purpose to hurt people might be. That’s not for me to decide, especially here. Again, I was simply pointing out that you were oversimplifying the issue.
How do you determine if someone is “trying on purpose to hurt people” and what do you mean by “hurt”?

if I feel “hurt” because you disagree with me on this issue, are your postings hate speech? Or am I just being a pathetic snowflake that can’t hold my own un a debate? And how do you decide intent?
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if I feel “hurt” because you disagree with me on this issue, are your postings hate speech? Or am I just being a pathetic snowflake that can’t hold my own un a debate? And how do you decide intent?
I love that you post this “pathetic snowflake” stuff immediately after a page of lamentations that we can’t engage in civil discussions anymore

again, I’m not trying to argue the issue here, just remind you that you’re oversimplifying it with your initial comments on it.
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
I love that you post this “pathetic snowflake” stuff immediately after a page of lamentations that we can’t engage in civil discussions anymore

again, I’m not trying to argue the issue here, just remind you that you’re oversimplifying it with your initial comments on it.
No. I’m simply trying to get you to define the terms of your argument, and how we could practically enforce your standards. And the “pathetic snowflake” comment was self deprecating. I had no idea it would trigger you.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
No. I’m simply trying to get you to define the terms of your argument, and how we could practically enforce your standards. And the “pathetic snowflake” comment was self deprecating. I had no idea it would trigger you.
again, it’s not my argument. I’m not the one complaining about the hate speech, I’m simply relaying that the widely known cases of pronoun issues being labeled as hate speech (and the Canadian legislation) are issues of intentional and repeated use in an injurious manner, not just misspoken. You’re misrepresenting it —likely intentionally— because you want to make people you disagree with seem ridiculous.

and no, it wasn’t self-deprecating, it was designed as an insult toward those who disagree with you, as was the comment about “triggering” others. The “oh u mad?!?!?” tact is exactly what y’all were complaining about on the last page.
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Old 05-20-2021, 06:25 PM
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again, it’s not my argument. Im not the one complaining about the hate speech, I’m simply relaying that the widely known cases of pronoun issues being labeled as hate speech are because they’re intentionally used in an injurious manner, not just misspoken.

and no, it wasn’t self-deprecating, it was designed as an insult toward those who disagree with you, as was the comment about “triggering” others. The “oh u mad?!?!?” tact is exactly what y’all were complaining about on the last page.
Actually, no. See, that’s the problem, you are mistaking my motives. I am not trying to get you or anyone else mad, merely showing the ambiguity in the terms being used and how difficult determining motivation actually is. That is not unique to you nor am I insulting you. It’s applicable to everyone using such terminology. It’s too ambiguous to be helpful.

Which is why courts generally find ambiguous laws unenforceable.
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I’ll take it a step further: We now live in a world where offense/hate speech/harassment is defined by the feelings of the recipient rather than the intent of the speaker. A chilling and appalling precedent. And one difficult to return from.
Spot on. Every morning I get up and look on social media to see what the Woke crowd is going to be offended by today. Never ceases to amaze me,
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Spot on. Every morning I get up and look on social media to see what the Woke crowd is going to be offended by today. Never ceases to amaze me
Be a part of the change you want to see and stop doing that. You and most of the other people in this idiotic thread would be much happier if you stopped paying attention to the people who you simultaneously are implying don't deserve it in the first place.
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Spot on. Every morning I get up and look on social media to see what the Woke crowd is going to be offended by today. Never ceases to amaze me,
You need to change your media diet. Seriously.
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Old 05-21-2021, 03:04 AM
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You need to change your media diet. Seriously.
I found that the world was a much friendlier place again after I cold-turkey quit Facebook and Twitter. It’s almost like most people in real life are actually pretty friendly and reasonable and I like them more when I don’t already know all of their opinions on every topic under the sun.
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