Annnual W2/Pay thread for 2020
02-27-2021, 08:05 PM
#292
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.No, I wouldn't solely use this thread to decide on a major to target, but the info is interesting. I get why you may think this thread is in bad taste, but generally speaking, there's a lot to be gained by knowing the salaries of your peers, especially in a year like this one.
02-27-2021, 10:48 PM
#293
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Funny you say that .
No, I wouldn't solely use this thread to decide on a major to target, but the info is interesting. I get why you may think this thread is in bad taste, but generally speaking, there's a lot to be gained by knowing the salaries of your peers, especially in a year like this one.
.No, I wouldn't solely use this thread to decide on a major to target, but the info is interesting. I get why you may think this thread is in bad taste, but generally speaking, there's a lot to be gained by knowing the salaries of your peers, especially in a year like this one.
Because who doesn’t want to know where to make money no matter what the economy does. Good luck to the crystal ball readers. Hint: Check out the historical record.
02-28-2021, 07:40 PM
#295
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
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So we only look at comparison in good years for certain parts of the industry? Not tone deaf, I said some guys did well and some had rough years. The point of the thread is to see perspective of earnings at certain places and certain airplanes. This information helps those that are coming up in the industry as well as those who are looking to move to other airlines.
To be honest I didnt even do that well compared to many of my coworkers.
To be honest I didnt even do that well compared to many of my coworkers.
All irrelevant.
Unlike past downturns, this one has had the govt bailout labor with direct PSP payments that allowed people to sit home collecting a paycheck even though they’re basically unemployed. The rest of the world? Ask Emirates A380 drivers how they’re doing. Or even Air Canada pilots how they’re doing. So yes, this thread is completely tone deaf. Go show the public how much you made with their own tax dollars that bailed you out.
02-28-2021, 08:28 PM
#296
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All irrelevant.
Unlike past downturns, this one has had the govt bailout labor with direct PSP payments that allowed people to sit home collecting a paycheck even though they’re basically unemployed. The rest of the world? Ask Emirates A380 drivers how they’re doing. Or even Air Canada pilots how they’re doing. So yes, this thread is completely tone deaf. Go show the public how much you made with their own tax dollars that bailed you out.
Unlike past downturns, this one has had the govt bailout labor with direct PSP payments that allowed people to sit home collecting a paycheck even though they’re basically unemployed. The rest of the world? Ask Emirates A380 drivers how they’re doing. Or even Air Canada pilots how they’re doing. So yes, this thread is completely tone deaf. Go show the public how much you made with their own tax dollars that bailed you out.
It has as much value this year as it has every other year. We will do it every year so my guess is dont read and we will be all good.....
03-02-2021, 03:03 PM
#297
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Posts: 144
I like idea of comparing complete contracts instead of just pay rates and I’ll admit it’s a little tone def to talk about how much money we “earned” this past year. So how about we come up with a new number to compare?
We could use the ratio of hours paid to block hours flown. Alaska’s pay checks show hours paid (1000) which doesn’t include vacation, perdiem or any other extraneous stuff. I looked up my block and I flew about 600 hrs. So my ratio is 1.6.
I held a line all year except for one month off and obviously we had allot of deadheads and canceled flights so this number is not very representative of our contract which is probably closer to 1.2 for line holders.
I would also suggest not posting exact hours paid and block hours flown to avoid possibly revealing your identity.
We could use the ratio of hours paid to block hours flown. Alaska’s pay checks show hours paid (1000) which doesn’t include vacation, perdiem or any other extraneous stuff. I looked up my block and I flew about 600 hrs. So my ratio is 1.6.
I held a line all year except for one month off and obviously we had allot of deadheads and canceled flights so this number is not very representative of our contract which is probably closer to 1.2 for line holders.
I would also suggest not posting exact hours paid and block hours flown to avoid possibly revealing your identity.
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