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01-13-2020, 07:29 PM

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Qotsaautopilot

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Originally Posted by Al Czervik

Here you go:
radiologist. Partner. Covers 4 locations. 1.1M after all is said and done 440 take home. Works waaaay harder than we do.

where do I shop for one of those?

01-13-2020, 07:35 PM

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Al Czervik

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

where do I shop for one of those?

relative. Not the wife.

01-13-2020, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

Yet many of us vote for politicians that are anti organized labor and systematically chip away at union rights and the ability to organize.

I’m so sorry this is happening to you.

01-13-2020, 09:29 PM

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barabek

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Originally Posted by Red Forman

I’m so sorry this is happening to you.

This is a perfect answer to all those snowflakes continuously crying about the evil "Californians" invading and changing their fine, conservative states; not this guy's post.

01-13-2020, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Omniscient

which even more begs the question of why pilots need to talk about it if it’s published

Because you have a baseline that’s published, the secrecy is taken out of it. Everyone does the quick math of hourly rate x 1000, and thinks that’s the salary. So you see a rate of $250 an hour, and think the guy is making 250k, but then he says, he lives in base, picks up to, and premium, and still gets 15 days off because he lives in base and makes 400k. Next guy (same airline, same 250 an hour) commutes, doesn’t pick up, flys as little as possible, and is only home 12 days due to commuting, but made 195k.

I, and others find the contrasts interesting/useful. You don’t, and nothing I or anybody else says is going to change your mind. We can agree to disagree.

01-14-2020, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by itsmytime

This. Pay rates are only a part of the equation. If you googled, “How much does a Delta pilot make,” the answers are ludicrously low.

Hourly rate x 1,000 is the wrong answer.

And as far as other professions are concerned, there’s a reason many corporations enforce salary NDA’s — knowledge is power.

01-14-2020, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WhenPigsFLy

There is a big diff if domestic or international at ups. Most 3 yr 74 guys are near 250k. Those living in anc and work it are high 300s and thats just w2 no bfund.

There’s ANC and there’s the rest of the system. Almost half of my flying last year was international.

01-14-2020, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KC135

That’s exactly what management wants. The main reason behind this is because salary is often negotiated after a job offer is given. Having two people with the same job title doing the same work at different salaries would cause a ruckus if they were to cross discuss.

I went to a public university. Every professor (actually every employee) has their salary published. They may have the same rank and teach the same course, but get significantly different pay.

Of course, there can be reasons for that. One brings in no research dollars and the other brings in a million dollars.

01-14-2020, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano

And as far as other professions are concerned, there’s a reason many corporations enforce salary NDA’s — knowledge is power.

And on that note, don’t think airline mgmt wouldn’t love it, if it was the same with them. There would be no delta +1, if nobody knew what delta pilots were making.