Originally Posted by Noworkallplay

So your good with going to a DC only plan in the next contract? Might as well go with a plan that is “earnings” and is more yours than a pension correct? You have to remember that the 2006 Pension Protection Act was written to avoid what caused the underfunded and pilfered pensions that disappeared in the past. Pension law is substantially different now than then. Funny thing is Delta and United are clawing to try to get a form of a pension back. Why you ask? Well imagine having a 25% DC only plan. Imagine how much of those contributions will be over the cap. All that amount uncle sam gets a bite at a few times. This is why many prefer a DC and DB combination. Plus imagine being the unlucky group with a DC only plan who had to retire in 07-09 time frame when about every investment took a 40-50% hit. Think that would creat some worry?

Originally Posted by WhaleSurfing

No way at SWA was he in his own bed 18-20 nights and flew 830 block. Total BS!



A good example why this thread is consistently worthless, year after year.

Originally Posted by milmil34

I’m curious, I’ve always been the type of guy at every airline I’ve worked at that makes Considerably more than my co-workers beacaue I “work the system”. Southwest pilots are known for making big money, and this thread attests to that. Southwest pilots don’t have the highest hourly rate, but still end up as some of the top earners in the industry which must be due to their work rules. As an outsider looking in I’ve always wondered what are these work rules that allow you guys to credit so much a month, with so many days off without even flying premium? Is it because the average southwest pilot/company culture is to work the system as hard as you can? Or are there actually more avenues at SW to be able to make more money than the average pilot aside from the ability to swap and drop? Do you guys just have super high credit vs block days?



Also I’m sure it has been broken down in an old thread, but I couldn’t find it...How does the TFP pay work? It’s based on Milage rather than time? It’s the equivalent to about 86% or so of a credit hour for other airlines?



Thanks in advance, I love hearing how other people work their respective systems.

Originally Posted by HIFLYR

Wow touched a nerve. I never said any of that I just questioned using a number to “boost” your annual earnings for a DB plan. If it makes you feel better and you feel it enhances your bragging rites go for it.

Originally Posted by milmil34

I’m not sure what seat your in, but I do 100 with 14-16 off pretty easy in the right seat just straight time but I’m always trolling open time and dropping and swapping.

Originally Posted by milmil34

I’m curious, I’ve always been the type of guy at every airline I’ve worked at that makes Considerably more than my co-workers beacaue I “work the system”. Southwest pilots are known for making big money, and this thread attests to that. Southwest pilots don’t have the highest hourly rate, but still end up as some of the top earners in the industry which must be due to their work rules. As an outsider looking in I’ve always wondered what are these work rules that allow you guys to credit so much a month, with so many days off without even flying premium? Is it because the average southwest pilot/company culture is to work the system as hard as you can? Or are there actually more avenues at SW to be able to make more money than the average pilot aside from the ability to swap and drop? Do you guys just have super high credit vs block days?

Also I’m sure it has been broken down in an old thread, but I couldn’t find it...How does the TFP pay work? It’s based on Milage rather than time? It’s the equivalent to about 86% or so of a credit hour for other airlines?

Thanks in advance, I love hearing how other people work their respective systems.

Originally Posted by Retractable

7n7 Schedule Example

Base. $172,974
FDP. $30,000 (33% of this goes to 401K).
OT 11%. $19,027
Holiday. $7,000 (assuming you work half of them)
PerDiem (I hate including this). $7500 assuming 182 days worked
Yearly Bonus $6,901
PTO sell back. $5,400 assuming you sell back 5 days and burn 7

Your buddies were right... it’s not $250k... it’s $248,801. Damn. And that’s 7n7 where you fly 5 days and have a company paid ticket to get to and from the jet on day 1 and 7. Sometimes there’s a flight on day 1 or 7, most times not.


And if you want to work Extended Days at 4 per bid period on the 7n7, it’s another $17k in extended day pay annually which triggers more perdiem, more OT, more FDP, etc.

If your buddies are laughing, it’s ashamed they left of it was “for the money” as it seems they just didn’t know how to read and leverage their contract.

Cheers!

It seems the industry is having a great year!

Originally Posted by ExtendedDays

Still pathetic for a 16 year CA

Originally Posted by milmil34

I’m curious, I’ve always been the type of guy at every airline I’ve worked at that makes Considerably more than my co-workers beacaue I “work the system”. Southwest pilots are known for making big money, and this thread attests to that. Southwest pilots don’t have the highest hourly rate, but still end up as some of the top earners in the industry which must be due to their work rules. As an outsider looking in I’ve always wondered what are these work rules that allow you guys to credit so much a month, with so many days off without even flying premium? Is it because the average southwest pilot/company culture is to work the system as hard as you can? Or are there actually more avenues at SW to be able to make more money than the average pilot aside from the ability to swap and drop? Do you guys just have super high credit vs block days?.