End of 2019 salary survey
01-04-2020, 05:28 AM
#301
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I believe that the DC fund values are very valuable. Just because past performance is no guarantee of future results doesn't mean it's not valuable information.
I actually consider my 401k contributions to be just as valuable or more valuable than my pay. The whole goal here is to accumulate as much wealth as possible so that you can retire comfortably.
I actually consider my 401k contributions to be just as valuable or more valuable than my pay. The whole goal here is to accumulate as much wealth as possible so that you can retire comfortably.
All the major airlines these days have very similar DC contributions so I’m not sure what value or new information you’re gathering. Maybe if Delta had 25% and everyone else still at 13%-16% you could see a drastic difference and how far behind your own airline is. I’m not saying it isn’t valuable when you reach 65 or whenever you decide to retire.
01-04-2020, 06:33 AM
#303
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All the major airlines these days have very similar DC contributions so I’m not sure what value or new information you’re gathering. Maybe if Delta had 25% and everyone else still at 13%-16% you could see a drastic difference and how far behind your own airline is. I’m not saying it isn’t valuable when you reach 65 or whenever you decide to retire.
01-04-2020, 06:46 AM
#304
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Agree. Although I fly with a bunch of guys who would tell you that it's "promised" compensation. Understandable so in their case.
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01-04-2020, 06:47 AM
#305
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I would consider that more part of your profit sharing package, but yes that’s a game changer worth sharing. As well as retirement contributions while on LTD I believe as well.
01-04-2020, 08:11 AM
#306
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I totally disagree especially if people post how many days worked. Knowledge is power that can be used to make decisions on which airline they prefer if given the option and possibly to aid in negotiations. For those of you who think it’s a “measuring contest” you have free will not to read the posts but please don’t try and silence people.
01-04-2020, 08:42 AM
#307
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How is it helpful info? If you want helpful info for an outsider, the only one that matters are first yr numbers. Posting 10 yr CA numbers is worthless to the new guy looking to join, because he isn’t going to be starting as a 10th yr CA. 10 yrs from now, the pay and contract will change so that info is obsolete for forward looking beyond the length of the current contract.
Great info to know what guys that have been around and have the seniority to work the system are pulling in dollar and QOL wise.
01-04-2020, 08:42 AM
#308
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How is it helpful info? If you want helpful info for an outsider, the only one that matters are first yr numbers. Posting 10 yr CA numbers is worthless to the new guy looking to join, because he isn’t going to be starting as a 10th yr CA. 10 yrs from now, the pay and contract will change so that info is obsolete for forward looking beyond the length of the current contract.
Wait sorry my bad. It’s helpful for their egos.
According to some 747 cap many pages ago he made like 365 and is predicting a recession (which has been predicted for the last 2 years almost) so... you’re right. What do these numbers have to do with anything? 10 years from now when a 1 year guy finally upgrades (based on predictions of an economic down turn) what will he be making? $200 an hour?? Soo yah I agree. Apples to oranges. Bogus and literally useless information. Egos stoked.
01-04-2020, 09:41 AM
#310
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Shy guy, it’s not helpful you’re right
Wait sorry my bad. It’s helpful for their egos.
According to some 747 cap many pages ago he made like 365 and is predicting a recession (which has been predicted for the last 2 years almost) so... you’re right. What do these numbers have to do with anything? 10 years from now when a 1 year guy finally upgrades (based on predictions of an economic down turn) what will he be making? $200 an hour?? Soo yah I agree. Apples to oranges. Bogus and literally useless information. Egos stoked.
Wait sorry my bad. It’s helpful for their egos.
According to some 747 cap many pages ago he made like 365 and is predicting a recession (which has been predicted for the last 2 years almost) so... you’re right. What do these numbers have to do with anything? 10 years from now when a 1 year guy finally upgrades (based on predictions of an economic down turn) what will he be making? $200 an hour?? Soo yah I agree. Apples to oranges. Bogus and literally useless information. Egos stoked.
Stop wasting people’s time.
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