End of 2019 salary survey
#231
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 31
SWA year 2/3 Fo. Mostly on year 2 pay.
$165K in wages
$12K from PS (2018 earnings)
$25k in B fund
$202k total.
I live in base and flew mid 800 block and averaged 14 days off a month.
Looks like it was a good year to be an airline pilot! Congrats to the high earners on this thread.
$165K in wages
$12K from PS (2018 earnings)
$25k in B fund
$202k total.
I live in base and flew mid 800 block and averaged 14 days off a month.
Looks like it was a good year to be an airline pilot! Congrats to the high earners on this thread.
#232
UPS year 3-4 FO
$199,000
+23,XXX DC
3 months in the transition school house.
Gave away most of July and several turns throughout the year
Don’t do anything extra
The 8 months I actually flew the line I averaged 11-12 days of duty per 28.
Happy New Years!
$199,000
+23,XXX DC
3 months in the transition school house.
Gave away most of July and several turns throughout the year
Don’t do anything extra
The 8 months I actually flew the line I averaged 11-12 days of duty per 28.
Happy New Years!
#234
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
15 year Regional FO (voluntary downgrade)
Emb145
Regular Pay $24,500
Per diem $1300
401k $1950
Bonus $5500
Live in Base, day tripper and drop day trips easily. 20 days off per month on average
Total Compensation $33,250
Side Business/Investments
Dividends/Royalties $21k per month/ $252k per year taxed at 9% using deductions, tax breaks.
Total overall income $285,250 take home Net income after tax $254,000.
Live in base, fly about 8 or 9 day trips per month because I still enjoy the flying, home everynight, good medical benefits, and travel benefits.
Hoping for a better 2020! Happy New Year!
Emb145
Regular Pay $24,500
Per diem $1300
401k $1950
Bonus $5500
Live in Base, day tripper and drop day trips easily. 20 days off per month on average
Total Compensation $33,250
Side Business/Investments
Dividends/Royalties $21k per month/ $252k per year taxed at 9% using deductions, tax breaks.
Total overall income $285,250 take home Net income after tax $254,000.
Live in base, fly about 8 or 9 day trips per month because I still enjoy the flying, home everynight, good medical benefits, and travel benefits.
Hoping for a better 2020! Happy New Year!
#235
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,327
If you work for the regional airlines, highly likely you’re are making a lot less than anyone at the “big 4”.
If you work at LCC/ULCC, moderately likely you’re making more than a regional airline pilot, moderately likely you’re making less than the “big 4”.
If you work at the “big 4”, extremely likely you are making a boat load of money, more money than all the Kings and queens of the world. (Bravo, we all super happy for you)
Now let’s break it down further: If you work 1 day you obviously make WAY less than everyone. If you work 365 days and have no life, most likely you make more than everyone.
So this dude part of the measuring contest, provided some solid information, he downgraded. Found another way to make a boat load of money while working 9 days making peanuts, all while lowering his taxable income and maximizing his income. Probably took this lesson right out of Dave’s book. Give the dude credit, he’s most likely going to be richer and happier than 75% of the people. Literally this thread is all useless information. Everything is public knowledge. Everyone knows how much everyone makes and if you don’t work you obviously make a lot less than those who hustle and work everyday. Back to your horn tooting.
Even the trump doesn’t tell anyone how much he makes.
#236
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 80
Dude, literally everyone who posted is “tooting” the horn... Let’s break this down.
If you work for the regional airlines, highly likely you’re are making a lot less than anyone at the “big 4”.
If you work at LCC/ULCC, moderately likely you’re making more than a regional airline pilot, moderately likely you’re making less than the “big 4”.
If you work at the “big 4”, extremely likely you are making a boat load of money, more money than all the Kings and queens of the world. (Bravo, we all super happy for you)
Now let’s break it down further: If you work 1 day you obviously make WAY less than everyone. If you work 365 days and have no life, most likely you make more than everyone.
So this dude part of the measuring contest, provided some solid information, he downgraded. Found another way to make a boat load of money while working 9 days making peanuts, all while lowering his taxable income and maximizing his income. Probably took this lesson right out of Dave’s book. Give the dude credit, he’s most likely going to be richer and happier than 75% of the people. Literally this thread is all useless information. Everything is public knowledge. Everyone knows how much everyone makes and if you don’t work you obviously make a lot less than those who hustle and work everyday. Back to your horn tooting.
Even the trump doesn’t tell anyone how much he makes.
If you work for the regional airlines, highly likely you’re are making a lot less than anyone at the “big 4”.
If you work at LCC/ULCC, moderately likely you’re making more than a regional airline pilot, moderately likely you’re making less than the “big 4”.
If you work at the “big 4”, extremely likely you are making a boat load of money, more money than all the Kings and queens of the world. (Bravo, we all super happy for you)
Now let’s break it down further: If you work 1 day you obviously make WAY less than everyone. If you work 365 days and have no life, most likely you make more than everyone.
So this dude part of the measuring contest, provided some solid information, he downgraded. Found another way to make a boat load of money while working 9 days making peanuts, all while lowering his taxable income and maximizing his income. Probably took this lesson right out of Dave’s book. Give the dude credit, he’s most likely going to be richer and happier than 75% of the people. Literally this thread is all useless information. Everything is public knowledge. Everyone knows how much everyone makes and if you don’t work you obviously make a lot less than those who hustle and work everyday. Back to your horn tooting.
Even the trump doesn’t tell anyone how much he makes.
#237
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 271
I know a guy who gives the most bs answers to questions about his schedule. For december i worked a 6 day trip (2x3 days back to back), a 4 day and a 4 day. All commutable. So i feel like i worked 14 days for 78hrs. He doesnt count the first/last days sometimes so he would say “i was at home 22 days this month”. I really question some peoples days away from home. Or my favorite when he is on reserve “i only worked 7 days this month (but he was on call for 18 days). I take all these worked days with a huge grain of salt.
#238
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,327
I totally disagree especially if people post how many days worked. Knowledge is power that can be used to make decisions on which airline they prefer if given the option and possibly to aid in negotiations. For those of you who think it’s a “measuring contest” you have free will not to read the posts but please don’t try and silence people.
I didn’t silence.
The dude says he works a few days a month and has a second job.. and his information isn’t good? And he’s “tooting” his horn? Interesting. I read this thread every year. What information is gained? Literally nothing. Some dudes make a lot. Some make a little. Some work a lot some work nothing. No one told the fire fighter that his info was bogus? Why not?
#239
Layover Master
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Seated
Posts: 4,323
Dude, literally everyone who posted is “tooting” the horn... Let’s break this down.
If you work for the regional airlines, highly likely you’re are making a lot less than anyone at the “big 4”.
If you work at LCC/ULCC, moderately likely you’re making more than a regional airline pilot, moderately likely you’re making less than the “big 4”.
If you work at the “big 4”, extremely likely you are making a boat load of money, more money than all the Kings and queens of the world. (Bravo, we all super happy for you)
Now let’s break it down further: If you work 1 day you obviously make WAY less than everyone. If you work 365 days and have no life, most likely you make more than everyone.
So this dude part of the measuring contest, provided some solid information, he downgraded. Found another way to make a boat load of money while working 9 days making peanuts, all while lowering his taxable income and maximizing his income. Probably took this lesson right out of Dave’s book. Give the dude credit, he’s most likely going to be richer and happier than 75% of the people. Literally this thread is all useless information. Everything is public knowledge. Everyone knows how much everyone makes and if you don’t work you obviously make a lot less than those who hustle and work everyday. Back to your horn tooting.
Even the trump doesn’t tell anyone how much he makes.
If you work for the regional airlines, highly likely you’re are making a lot less than anyone at the “big 4”.
If you work at LCC/ULCC, moderately likely you’re making more than a regional airline pilot, moderately likely you’re making less than the “big 4”.
If you work at the “big 4”, extremely likely you are making a boat load of money, more money than all the Kings and queens of the world. (Bravo, we all super happy for you)
Now let’s break it down further: If you work 1 day you obviously make WAY less than everyone. If you work 365 days and have no life, most likely you make more than everyone.
So this dude part of the measuring contest, provided some solid information, he downgraded. Found another way to make a boat load of money while working 9 days making peanuts, all while lowering his taxable income and maximizing his income. Probably took this lesson right out of Dave’s book. Give the dude credit, he’s most likely going to be richer and happier than 75% of the people. Literally this thread is all useless information. Everything is public knowledge. Everyone knows how much everyone makes and if you don’t work you obviously make a lot less than those who hustle and work everyday. Back to your horn tooting.
Even the trump doesn’t tell anyone how much he makes.
Pay rates are public knowledge and readily available. How they can be manipulated and what real life numbers are, are not. I find the information posted about major airline jobs to be incredible useful and relevant. It could help potential applicants, those in the pipeline, and IMO most importantly, those currently at other major airlines trying to understand their own contracts and how to vote.
I could not care less about some random dude’s side business.
And when the same dude gives zero information about what it is, how much time is spent on it, or the level of experience needed to do it, it’s even more useless. It’s just a dude flexing showing everyone he makes money. Congratulations!
#240
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2018
Posts: 1,838
FedEx year 3-4 (757 Capt)
Live in Base
Bid Reserve when not Instructing
Pick up extra reserve and standby periods sitting at home
Pay - 320k
DC - 22,900k
Pension - 40k
Per diem - Almost none since I barely fly
Total - 383k
Block - 61.2
24 nights away from home
Live in Base
Bid Reserve when not Instructing
Pick up extra reserve and standby periods sitting at home
Pay - 320k
DC - 22,900k
Pension - 40k
Per diem - Almost none since I barely fly
Total - 383k
Block - 61.2
24 nights away from home
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