Originally Posted by FXLAX

Yes, it would require the repeal of the 16th amendment. The Fair Tax would do both.

Fairtax.org

Originally Posted by Bluesideup1

you are repeating yourself over and over. You posted the exact same thing on the 25th

Originally Posted by Bluesideup1

I didn't want to have to explain the difference to you again ..... blah blah blah

Originally Posted by Bluesideup1

Who said EVs lack smog?

Originally Posted by Bluesideup1

One of the benefits of EV is the lack of smog.

Originally Posted by HIFLYR

Thing that gets me is people flee California for lower tax states and then proceed to try to change that place into California by voting for the same things that they fled.

Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna

I posted the same thing because you are on transmit only and ignored the first one.




You never explained anything the first time, you were caught arguing with yourself.





I am NOT asking you to explain the relative merits of EV vs ICE.

I am pointing out that you are so bad at trolling that you are arguing with yourself.

Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot

And what you don't seem to grasp is that as oil becomes less used in this country while still in demand in others around the world wells and refiners will shut down here due to environmental regulation and reduced domestic demand which will increase demand on those wells and refineries still in operation. Economics are not single path simple calculations. The first crack spread story was from just after the first gulf war after prices had gone lower and demand had decreased. That caused drilling to be slowed and refiners to take in in the shorts while the price was down. Same thing will happen here at first with widespread EV use, only the demand will still be high from aircraft due to the weight problem with batteries and ever increasing travel demand. With less being refined and more demand the prices will rise and once again, just as historically, crack spreads will rise exponentially. When you so eloquently called me an idiot before because apparently you didn't read completely what I said I will repeat it. The price of oil is not the only factor in the price of refined fuels. I trade crack spreads, they move all the time whether oil is moving or not.

This may help you understand:

Trading Oil Products & the "Crack Spread" | Closing the Gap: Futures Edition - YouTube

Originally Posted by Bluesideup1

Says the troll who posted the same thing twice to get a reaction.

Originally Posted by Bluesideup1

Ok you win.

Oil price isn't the largest driving factor in the cost of gas and if we get a lot of extra low price oil it will most certainly rise because of crack.

If people want to believe that is the case then by all means put a ton of fans on your cars and get off the ICE before it skyrockets.

Now please let me go back to my basement and don't knock my head off my shoulders.

All I wanted to do was talk about how we could get off of oil which would save this country a ton of money with a side benefit of polluting less. I marvel at how that turned out.

Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot

I am going to go out on a limb and assume you are fairly young and haven't been around long enough to see how our government works. As gas use goes down and revenues go away the money will be bled from somewhere. There will either be a per mile tax to replace it or equally as likely the price of electricity will skyrocket due to far more demand without the increased production (regulations and red tape make new power plants quite difficult especially nuclear) and due to new taxes added to make up for lost gasoline tax revenue. The country won't be saving any money due to EV use just paying in different ways. The federal budget never goes down.