California income taxes
#761
You did say you don’t like flat tax proposals, everyone of which is based on expanding the tax bases by eliminating deductions and lowering rates. What do you want—high rates AND no deductions?
#762
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progressive taxation without exemptions/deductions
#763
Not taking your money thru taxes isn’t a give away, it wasn’t the government’s money in the first place.
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No, no, no progressive taxation, everyone pays the same rate, but discrimination is just fine, I guess. The whole point of progressive taxation is to allow politicians to then create tax “loopholes” to pay off their favored friends. Read up on the history of taxation, especially in bad days of 90% rates and company cars, golf club memberships, an a zillion other write-offs because 90% taxes without those loopholes wasn’t sustainable,
Not taking your money thru taxes isn’t a give away, it wasn’t the government’s money in the first place.
Not taking your money thru taxes isn’t a give away, it wasn’t the government’s money in the first place.
Oh how oppressed you are *crocodile tears*
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Point out where in the post you last quoted that I said anywhere that I believe in perpetual motion. I said specifically that it wouldn't work but that that engineer thought he could make some gains. If you spoke to me in person this way you would get your head knocked off your shoulders. Learn to interact with people without insulting them before you leave your basement, especially when you don't quote them accurately.
I can't help that you don't understand basic economics. When the supply of oil eventually is reduced to very low levels due to drillers capping wells and stopping exploration with the world going electric. The price will go higher. The industries that still have to use oil due to weight sensitivities (airlines for example) will suffer price spikes due to the high prices. I never said crack spreads cause prices to go higher or lower. I said it is a factor and will be a more important factor as the supply lowers because refineries will not operate at a loss. The spreads will also skyrocket.
Done with you.
I can't help that you don't understand basic economics. When the supply of oil eventually is reduced to very low levels due to drillers capping wells and stopping exploration with the world going electric. The price will go higher. The industries that still have to use oil due to weight sensitivities (airlines for example) will suffer price spikes due to the high prices. I never said crack spreads cause prices to go higher or lower. I said it is a factor and will be a more important factor as the supply lowers because refineries will not operate at a loss. The spreads will also skyrocket.
Done with you.
Funny, I didn't insult you I insulted the science devoid article that you linked to. If you believe any of it then yes my comment about not getting past the 8th grade would be apropos to you also. I did say I thought pilots were suppose to be smart and if you took offence after posting such a moronic link then maybe it was apropos also.
You still haven't made a coherent argument on how having less oil at a lower price would make refineries operate at a loss and the crack spread "skyrocket" because every other time that there has been more or less oil in the history of oil the crack spread never "skyrocketed" to the point it really made much of a difference in the price of gas.
I can easily show how lower prices of crude directly related to lower prices of gas. I will make it extremely simple for you: Barrel of oil at $150 = gallon of gas $4+. Barrel of oil at $40 = gallon of gas under $2. Rising cost for a barrel of oil like we are getting now = gallon of gas going up. No where is the crack spread moving the needle on the cost of a gallon of gas compared to how oil moves it.
Cheap oil = cheap gas...so simple a cave man can see that.
BTW you don't seem to have any problem insulting me by saying I live in a basement. Then on top of that threatened physical harm. I could care less coming from a keyboard warrior but typically telling someone they will "get your head knocked off your shoulders" is frowned upon by those of us who purportedly dwell in their basements. Plus by the look of it your 1,360 posts compared to my 190 you may be projecting.
BTW BTW I don't have to point out where you believe in perpetual motion. It is right there on display in your posts. The idea you came up with and the link you posted both believe you can extract more energy than is being put in which is the bases of perpetual motion.
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Thanks for the clarification. That is all most ask is a level playing field. I also never thought people keeping more of their own money that they earned was ever taking away from the government. It was never theirs to begin with and that is the sad part when people actually think a tax subsidy is taking away from the government vs getting to keep more of your own money.
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1)you’re not discriminated against because taxation is progressive, 2) progressive taxation is not price discrimination, and 3) you and I both know that’s not what you meant.
#770
Utterly ridiculous! Progressive taxation is exactly a form of price discrimination—finding who will pay more for a good or service. No different than from stores offering discounts to elderly or airlines charging different fares based on seating, timing or origin or destination.. I know no such thing, it’s all you assuming the word discrimination can mean only ONE thing.
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