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Old 03-25-2021, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
You are probably right. But I wonder how long it would take or have taken if you took away all state and federal subsidies to this industry. Right now, all taxpayers subsidize the EV market.
Actually no taxpayer subsidizes the EV market. It is an EV tax credit and people just get to keep more of their own money which is no different than a tax deduction on a home mortgage. Also Tesla and Chevy buyers don't even qualify for those tax deductions any more. Plus when the oil companies are given HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS in tax breaks and deductions every year there isn't much room to complain so I am all for getting rid of any deductions for both EVs and Oil companies. Then we can see what the true price of gas is.
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Old 03-25-2021, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
Speaking of what others posted, someone posted that solar panels on cars doesn’t make sense. So explain to a layman (me) how it does make sense for using solar panels to charge your car at home but not a parked car? Maybe the solar panel technology isn’t moving forward as fast as battery technology?
It cost a lot of money to embed a solar panel into the glass of a car. With the small size it won't produce more than a mile or 4 a day under the best conditions. You would never make your money back on how much it cost to put solar on a car.

Solar panels at home are much cheaper to install and have a lot more room to produce electricity. That is the only difference. I just doesn't make economic sense to put it in a car plus you would have to leave your car outside all the time which I prefer not to do.
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Old 03-25-2021, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
But a car has more surface area than just the roof. Every single square inch of outside surface, except windows, can be solar panels, right? I guess I’m missing something when people say solar works on a home which uses a lot more energy for a lot longer period of time, than a car yet a commensurate amount of solar panels on a car doesn’t work.
People have attached solar all over the car and it works to give you less than 10 miles a day in the most optimum conditions. It just costs to much to make any sense. It is much cheaper to charge your car from the wall or a fixed solar panel and not a specialized flexible one that has to stand up to all the rigors of driving.

If you can come up with a way to integrate solar into the car and make it economical you will be a Billionaire.
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Old 03-25-2021, 04:51 PM
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I was thinking more along the lines of existing brake cooling passages if they exist and regenerative. I suppose you could add logic to disconnect the generator from the propeller when the potentiometer is pressed to reduce to the minimum drag and reconnect when off the pedal. Just thinking. Probably too much drag and cost to try to add a couple of miles of additional range at best. The more likely result would probably be negative.

This engineer doesn't seem to think so though:

The American Wind Powered Car - Energy Alabama (alcse.org)

As the most wonderful president who actually got more votes than any other without even campaigning says: C'mon man!

I thought pilots were suppose to be smart. Anyone who even thinks this is possible didn't get past 8th grade science class. The drag created by anything sticking out into the wind FAR FAR exceeds any benefit that could come from it and the faster you go the worse it gets.

If you can make it through the entire article that could be debunked with a simple volt meter. At the end of the article they say they are going try and take the fan that is plugged into a USB outlet blowing on the turbine and connect it directly to the turbine to create the energy used to power the fan which will blow on the turbine to keep it going.

Just think of all those moronic scientist who are spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to make cold fusion happen when all they had to do was plug a fan into a turbine that turns the fan that turns the turbine.

Oh and if 4 turbines worked then 8 would be better and if 8 turbines worked then 16 would be better and if 16 worked than 32 would be better but then again we don't want to create the 1.21 gigawatts as you might jump back to 1985.

Holy Crap!
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Old 03-25-2021, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup1
As the most wonderful president who actually got more votes than any other without even campaigning says: C'mon man!

I thought pilots were suppose to be smart. Anyone who even thinks this is possible didn't get past 8th grade science class. The drag created by anything sticking out into the wind FAR FAR exceeds any benefit that could come from it and the faster you go the worse it gets.

If you can make it through the entire article that could be debunked with a simple volt meter. At the end of the article they say they are going try and take the fan that is plugged into a USB outlet blowing on the turbine and connect it directly to the turbine to create the energy used to power the fan which will blow on the turbine to keep it going.

Just think of all those moronic scientist who are spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to make cold fusion happen when all they had to do was plug a fan into a turbine that turns the fan that turns the turbine.

Oh and if 4 turbines worked then 8 would be better and if 8 turbines worked then 16 would be better and if 16 worked than 32 would be better but then again we don't want to create the 1.21 gigawatts as you might jump back to 1985.

Holy Crap!

You don't get out much, do you?
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Old 03-25-2021, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup1
Who said EVs lack smog? ...... I don't remember a single person saying they lack smog
dude.....YOU are the one who said it. You are literally arguing against a post you made less than a week ago. Are you off your meds or something?

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One of the benefits of EV is the lack of smog
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
dude.....YOU are the one who said it. You are literally arguing against a post you made less than a week ago. Are you off your meds or something?
Now THAT'S funny

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Old 03-25-2021, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluesideup1
If you can come up with a way to integrate solar into the car and make it economical you will be a Billionaire.
It'd be easy... on Mercury, where you'd have plenty of solar energy per sq ft.
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It'd be easy... on Mercury, where you'd have plenty of solar energy per sq ft.
Will that work on aircraft flying on Mercury? Or would that be Icarus, who flew too close to the sun?
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
Will that work on aircraft flying on Mercury? Or would that be Icarus, who flew too close to the sun?
Aircraft would probably require ... well, air, not to put too fine a point on it. Mercury doesn’t have much of an atmosphere... about 10 to the minus 14th that of Earth, composed mainly of monatomic Hydrogen, monatomic Helium, Monatomic Oxygen, and - strangely enough - Sodium vapor.


But the Earth is a different matter - unless you actually want to fly fast:


https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/8/2...lte-connection
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