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Old 11-19-2019, 01:48 PM
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I think the bigger argument we should be having is we need to set COL standards in our contracts, like the federal government does. A pilot living in Detroit making the same amount as someone based in San Francisco is clearly going to be living much better.
Maybe a double-edged sword... the reason the industry is so accommodating of JS access is so they don't HAVE to pay COLA for their high-rent domiciles.

The only reason the FAA and TSA put up with personal JS use is because the airline industry groups insist. They don't really bend to ALPA's will much as we like to kid ourselves.
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
It’s readily apparent that the haters are jealous of California’s awesome weather, resources and culture. It’s ok, just be honest about it.
Grew up there. Graduated from Oceanside High school. Lived there for over 20 years. It does have awesome weather, it has nice beaches, it even has ok skiing.

So, no not jealous just a little ****ed that such a beautiful place is being so poorly managed that it makes it nearly impossible for even the top 10% of earners to afford to live there. Not to mention the massive increases in petty crime since some of the large cities have done away with policing it. Then there is the homeless and as someone pointed out the poop problems.

Also what culture is that? Are you culturally appropriating? Because the last I checked the vast majority of Californians are far from laid back surfer types and more of my sh*t don't stink smell their own farts type. (think cartman in San Francisco).
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Originally Posted by atooraya
People are living by the hundred of thousands, yet the coffers are still huge and people keep moving to California. And every airline has a base here and trying to massively grow. Clearly, they're doing everything wrong:

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-...221-story.html



I think the bigger argument we should be having is we need to set COL standards in our contracts, like the federal government does. A pilot living in Detroit making the same amount as someone based in San Francisco is clearly going to be living much better.
You keep saying the coffers are huge. The problem is the spending is even larger so when I say I make 40 Trillion a year yet spend 80 Trillion how is the fact that I make 40 Trillion any relevance to fact that I spend more than I make? I don't know why people keep pointing out the they are the 5th largest economy or that they bring in a lot of money. When they spend more than they make by a large amount.

The fact that the airlines want a piece of the pie is because California prices are so high already that to even afford a 1,300 sq ft home you have to be making over 6 figures so the price of a $300 ticket for a flight doesn't seem as much as someone from Tulsa that lives in a 3,000 sq ft home makes half as much but has more disposable income yet is only willing to pay $200 for the same flight.
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Old 11-20-2019, 02:37 AM
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I would rather be poor and live in California than loaded and live in Detroit.
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
I would rather be poor and live in California than loaded and live in Detroit.
Thankfully those aren’t your only two choices in life.
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Originally Posted by worstpilotever
I would rather be poor and live in California than loaded and live in Detroit.
Ehhh I’d still rather be loaded and live in the outskirts of Detroit then poor and be anywhere.
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Go to uhaul.com. Price out a rental from CA to TX and then look at the reverse route. What does that tell you?
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Go to uhaul.com. Price out a rental from CA to TX and then look at the reverse route. What does that tell you?
Holy crap over 1k difference.
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Holy crap over 1k difference.
It’s been that way for years. Dallas and Austin housing markets have been going insane for a decade, with the influx of California evacuees, having enough of the “weather, culture, and whatever else”

I enjoyed growing up in California but it’s not the same state any longer. This isn’t a political statement, it’s just what I grew up seeing and living.
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Holy crap over 1k difference.
Which the Malibu-or-bust people will simply tell you that that’s the U-haul companies charging whatever the market will bear and that people would RATHER pay an extra grand to move TO rather than FROM California.

But getting back to the thread topic California income taxes, until you have actually experienced the Franchise Tax Board, nothing will get you to believe how aggressive they are about deciding you owe them money, or how aggressive they are about coming after you with garnishment, liens against property, impoundment if assets, etc., all of which you must fight by returning to Californians (pay some lawyer) to plead your case before the Board of Equalization.

My personal experience has to do with a claim by them that I owed $2K excise tax on a vehicle I parked in California during a six month period when I was assigned there TDY en route from one state to another on military orders. While a citizen of another state and TDY enroute PCS to a third state, with registration and licenses from my home if record.

Three letters and two calls from the base JAG at my next base reading verbatim from the soldier’s and sailors relief act were insufficient to convince the lower level bureaucrats. Eventually the USAF Judge Advocate General’s Office had to get involved, but that was the level of intervention it took.

Currently Arizona is trying to sue California for harassing their citizens.

https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/ar...case-of-48046/

Seriously, you don’t want to even allow these guys to know you exist. They are tenacious as cancer and about as humorless.

From their publication:

Coming into California
When you are present in California for temporary or transitory purposes, you are a nonresident of California. For instance, if you come to California for a vacation, or
to complete a transaction, or are simply passing through, your purpose is temporary or transitory. As a nonresident, you are taxed only on your income from California sources.
When you are in California for other than a temporary
or transitory purpose, you are a California resident. For instance, if your employer assigns you to an offce in California for a long or indefnite period, if you retire and come to California with no specifc plans to leave, or if you are ill and are in California for an indefnite recuperation period, your stay is other than temporary or transitory. As a resident, you are taxed on income from all sources.
You will be presumed to be a California resident for any taxable year in which you spend more than nine months in this state.
Although you may have connections with another state, if your stay in California is for other than a temporary or transitory purpose, you are a California resident.
As a resident, your income from all sources is taxable by California.
https://www.ftb.ca.gov/forms/2018/18_1031.pdf

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