RJSAviator76

That's it. I'm moving back to California... I'm convinced. See? IAHFlyer nails it.... they have a net-positive number of people moving in! See??? The California Dream is still alive! Let's not get into details on where these fine folks are coming from, or their immigration status, like that nonsense matters anymore anyway... but they're coming and that's all that matters.

Then, I'll only count my pay to calculate my net worth. I'll pay my "fair share" of taxes. I'll also adopt an illegal... oops... undocumented?? alien... wait... can't call them alien either... uhhh.. undocumented worker? Yeah that's it!

I'm gonna buy the biggest house I can find, but when someone asks me about my finances, I will conveniently exclude my mortgage debt because... well... it just doesn't count, OK? I will brag about my lack of credit card debt, but when they start getting maxed out in California, I will conveniently exclude them too, and they won't count either.

But the best part of it all, I can choose to identify as whatever I want, and if anyone calls me names, I'll call that person a bigot, hater, racist, and a xenophobe which will silence and shame anyone. I can't believe I missed out on being so woke all these years....

California... here I come!

/sarcasm off

OOfff

i, along with most Californians, are happy to not have you and these ideas back.

CincoDeMayo

The article you sent me clearly states that CA had a net loss of 900,000 to other states and the population increase they saw was because of immigration and procreation.

Why you try to spin that as being the same growth seen in Texas, it’s not accurate.

If you want to hang your hat on the fact babies aren’t leaving the state in droves or immigration numbers make up the bulk of net population gain, that’s fine. But don’t conflate it as being the same as people from other states relocating to California.


And here is the irony; just as you state that California would be better off if 10% left (for the various reasons listed) is the exact reason why other states hate more
Californians coming to their (our) states.

CAirBear

This whole “Everyone is leaving state XYZ” is so retarded. Sure, some folks leave, but guess what happens? Most of the time their house sells in days (sometimes hours). How is that possible? Everyone’s leaving in MASSIVE droves!? Why has my sister not found the house of her dreams yet?

If there truly were a “mass exodus” (which there isn’t), you would know because one of the key indications would be housing prices. The supply and demand would become much more in line with one another and houses wouldn’t be $800-1M+ anymore. (I’m talking basic family homes not mansions).

I would guess for every 1 person (or family that leaves) there are 2-3 folks (maybe even 2-3x that) who do want to be there.

My sister moved to LA 15-20 years ago from the Midwest. Absolutely LOVES it. She went out there to do makeup for the entertainment world, got burned out. Now, with no finance background, is a CFP. She met her husband there. They hike, ski, surf. They aren’t ever leaving. Highly doubt their kids do either.

Again, do some people wake up one day and get tired of taxes and the high cost of living? Sure. They are free to live as they choose and locate elsewhere. But again, there are going to be folks that want to replace them.

For the rest of mankind

LA Metro is always going to have 12 Million+ living there.

Bay Area is at 7 Million+

NYC Metro is 18 Million+

These numbers are never going to change. Ever. Go look at the data. Even when these cities have “declined” (in the last couple years) your looking at less than 1/10th of 1 percent.

Some of these folks in Texas, who keep spouting off this BS are acting like 75% of the entire population of the Bay Area, SoCal and NYC are upending their lives to live in Texas... they aren’t.

rickair7777

There's always been some churn at the bottom of the spectrum... kids come to CA to chase dreams, or chase the sun. Many or most of those leave about the time they have kids because they want more elbow room and it's not affordable. All of my best mil buds did that, kind of wish a few were still around honestly. Also some native kids who can't afford to stay.

That dynamic changes with the economy and maybe political winds, but most of the established people tend to stay, although my retired Aunt de-camped for NV solely over politics. I know numerous pilots who have "moved" from CA to NV recently, but they have the luxury of doing that and keeping their jobs. I suspect post covid the tide will shift at some point. It'd be NICE if there were less people (and traffic) but I don't really see it happening.

Might be interesting to see how CA tries to tax zoom workers in other states... they don't have the federal protection afforded to aircrew.

atooraya

There are many tech companies in California that are telling their employees if they leave the state, they will be paid less as a COL adjustment. That’s why you’re seeing people moving to Tahoe or Truckee instead of Reno.

I just hope the big 3 start opening crew bases in Indianapolis, Greensboro, Birmingham or Boise, so we can all move there and not worry about commuting. All while in our new low tax red states, laughing at blue states, demanding our unions to get us better job protections and pay.

ItnStln

This!
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TransWorld

Sometime I wish there could be civics education training in Texas before Californians are permitted to vote.

OOfff

you mean like the education that would explain how people can move freely among the several states?

TransWorld

Like when one flees a state because of negative problems, one does not keep voting the same way that ran themselves into problems. The height of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results.