California income taxes
12-28-2019, 11:20 AM
#321
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Exactly, that’s why I didn’t agree with that statement.
12-28-2019, 06:32 PM
#322
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Let’s all start with the idea that it’s OUR money, not the government’s. Go from there.
12-28-2019, 07:42 PM
#324
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Hell, I don't get most of that where I live anyways.
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12-28-2019, 08:17 PM
#325
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There's always a place for common civic services, but those are still paid for with your money, not the government's. Even so, that's a small portion of the total budget. The government doesn't spend it's own money because it doesn't have any. It can tax with the consent of the governed but has no right to your money. Only you have the right to your money. Too many people seem to think that they can decide how much is enough for someone else to have or how someone else should spend their own money. And a lot of those people are elected to office by promising to take money from people to give to other people. It's hard to imagine a more immoral policy but that's where we are.
12-28-2019, 10:13 PM
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There's always a place for common civic services, but those are still paid for with your money, not the government's. Even so, that's a small portion of the total budget. The government doesn't spend it's own money because it doesn't have any. It can tax with the consent of the governed but has no right to your money. Only you have the right to your money. Too many people seem to think that they can decide how much is enough for someone else to have or how someone else should spend their own money. And a lot of those people are elected to office by promising to take money from people to give to other people. It's hard to imagine a more immoral policy but that's where we are.
US Constitution > Article I. Legislative Department › SECTION 8. Clause 1.
The Congress shall have Power to lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.
Sounds like they do have the right to at least some of your money, consent was given in 1788...
12-29-2019, 05:47 AM
#327
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The problem comes in when political factions realize they can vote themselves largesse from the public coffers. If you don't know what that phrase means, google it. Never been more relevant than today.
12-29-2019, 07:07 AM
#328
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They usually use a combination of transaction price, and comps in the area to establish a fair value for the house, regardless of what you paid for it.
As an aside, during the last downturn in CA, they didn't advertise it much, but if your house was worth less than it had been purchased at (and appraised for taxes), you could apply annually to have your house reassessed and they did lower your taxes temp for that year but if you didn't apply each year, the value and tax rebounded to the original higher value.
12-29-2019, 07:09 AM
#329
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The only thing that makes sense is that the OP bought the house and did major renovations as well that used permits which triggered a reassessment after the remodel and hence an updated value that included a tax hike.
12-29-2019, 07:19 AM
#330
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So I still don’t understand the situation because you can protest the valuation using comps and purchase price. I know because I’ve done this myself.
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