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Old 12-27-2019, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
I can remember as far back as 2000, Texas residents being allowed to appeal your appraisal and arrange a date to argue your case in front of the tax accessors office. There is quite a few business firms that will argue your case for you, in exchange for a percentage of the savings...point being, there is a process in place and it sounds like you missed it and the local government took full advantage of you. Sorry you got hosed but just trying to point out the system isnt as rouge as what happened to you.
You guys are kinda missing the point here. The tax should be based on the price you paid. Never ever on the price someone else thinks your property is worth. Today. Tomorrow. 20 years from now. Hiring someone to help you keep your money... I know that's how life works but that shouldn't be the acceptable answer.
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
I can remember as far back as 2000, Texas residents being allowed to appeal your appraisal and arrange a date to argue your case in front of the tax accessors office. There is quite a few business firms that will argue your case for you, in exchange for a percentage of the savings...point being, there is a process in place and it sounds like you missed it and the local government took full advantage of you. Sorry you got hosed but just trying to point out the system isnt as rouge as what happened to you.
Yeah, sounds like he is mis-remembering or did it wrong.

Never heard of anyone having to pay more than their house is worth, that doesn’t sound real.

And taxes don’t go up 40% in a year. There are caps on valuation increases and tax rate increases.
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Old 12-28-2019, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Yeah, sounds like he is mis-remembering or did it wrong.

Never heard of anyone having to pay more than their house is worth, that doesn’t sound real.

And taxes don’t go up 40% in a year. There are caps on valuation increases and tax rate increases.
He probably means with the updated value Based on sale and upgrades he paid 40% more than previous owner.
Happens on every transaction in CA..... sometimes over 100% increase.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
You guys are kinda missing the point here. The tax should be based on the price you paid. Never ever on the price someone else thinks your property is worth. Today. Tomorrow. 20 years from now.
That was the genesis of CA prop 13.
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Originally Posted by full of luv
He probably means with the updated value Based on sale and upgrades he paid 40% more than previous owner.
Happens on every transaction in CA..... sometimes over 100% increase.
He said he paid taxes on a valuation higher than the price he just purchased the house for......which doesn’t make sense in Texas, California, or anywhere for that matter.
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
You guys are kinda missing the point here. The tax should be based on the price you paid. Never ever on the price someone else thinks your property is worth. Today. Tomorrow. 20 years from now. Hiring someone to help you keep your money... I know that's how life works but that shouldn't be the acceptable answer.
If your parents sell you their house for a dollar, you would never have to pay property tax. Not sure if that’s right either.
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Old 12-28-2019, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
If your parents sell you their house for a dollar, you would never have to pay property tax. Not sure if that’s right either.
There should be some provision for inheritance. Most people agree on that although it is subject to debate.

There's a balance between your obvious right to leave some stuff for your kids, and a reasonable policy to give future generations a clean slate. That last is important in a meritocracy.
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Old 12-28-2019, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
He said he paid taxes on a valuation higher than the price he just purchased the house for......which doesn’t make sense in Texas, California, or anywhere for that matter.
Originally Posted by symbian simian
If your parents sell you their house for a dollar, you would never have to pay property tax. Not sure if that’s right either.
In many states, the new tax value is the purchase price for an "arms length transaction", which excludes a family sale below market value. In that case the tax office would do an updated appraisal.
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In many states, the new tax value is the purchase price for an "arms length transaction", which excludes a family sale below market value. In that case the tax office would do an updated appraisal.
I am absolutely no tax expert. I can just see how people would try to get an artificially low sales price for the house just to avoid high property tax for decades (I see your house is listed for $500K, I will pay you $250K for it and throw in another $250K for moving cost.).

The issue I had was with the following statement:
"The tax should be based on the price you paid. Never ever on the price someone else thinks your property is worth. Today. Tomorrow. 20 years from now."
I don't think that should be true.
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Old 12-28-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
I am absolutely no tax expert. I can just see how people would try to get an artificially low sales price for the house just to avoid high property tax for decades (I see your house is listed for $500K, I will pay you $250K for it and throw in another $250K for moving cost.).

The issue I had was with the following statement:
"The tax should be based on the price you paid. Never ever on the price someone else thinks your property is worth. Today. Tomorrow. 20 years from now."
I don't think that should be true.
that is not an arms length transaction. it is an attempt to scam the tax authorities. also good luck getting financing for 2x the purchase price. if you can afford cash, then it would work, but the tax authorities would be knocking on your door.
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