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Old 12-21-2019, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RamenNoodles
Have any of the anti-California posters here actually ever lived in California? It sounds to me like you’re all just complaining about taxes that you’ve never even had to pay.

When I say lived, I mean actually bought property and put down roots. Two years of mil housing doesn’t count.

Serious question.
Ah yes. Bought housing and put down roots. Aka, passing homes down through family avoiding having it re-assessed for tax purposes. FO I recently flew with his family bought a house in 1952 in Culver City for about 50,000 dollars in those days. IIRC he said it's been always passed down through family, reassessed (?) once, and today it's worth 1.6 million dollars and he pays around 3k in property taxes/year. Yeah, I can see how one would be very "happy" with that situation. For the rest of us who moved here, we're looking at 1 mil+ in LA county for a 4-bdrm (at least 1mil+ for areas worth living in).


But to answer your question, yes I lived in the Bay Area when first hired at my airline. They opened a NYC base and I took it and bailed to NJ. Cost of living in NJ was still cheaper than compared to CA - and yes I bought property in NJ. Then a merger, NYC closed, and it was move to SF or LA. We chose LA. SF pricing is even worse than LA. Holy cow!


California liberal policies have really wrecked the state. Taxes and spending are out of control. Don't even get me started on how much millions $$$ LA county spent on the homeless problem for 2019 and don't have jack to show for it. Oh I heard they're following SF's lead of bussing homeless to Oakland. Is it true LA bussed quite a few over to Orange County? LOL
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Old 12-21-2019, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by gsphuntr
Born and raised.. bailed.. won’t ever be back. 9.3 percent? GTFO of here...

If you asked anyone if they wanted a 8-10 percent pay raise, who would say no? Apparently the CA homers who think it’s totally acceptable to be robbed by Sacramento..

I’ll take my income, spending, taxes, productive citizenry elsewhere...
If you asked me to forgo a 8-10 percent raise but I never had to deal with winter weather again I’d take it in a heartbeat. I’m perfectly happy living within the means of the 6k or so a month I take home.
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Old 12-22-2019, 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Ah yes. Bought housing and put down roots. Aka, passing homes down through family avoiding having it re-assessed for tax purposes. FO I recently flew with his family bought a house in 1952 in Culver City for about 50,000 dollars in those days. IIRC he said it's been always passed down through family, reassessed (?) once, and today it's worth 1.6 million dollars and he pays around 3k in property taxes/year. Yeah, I can see how one would be very "happy" with that situation. For the rest of us who moved here, we're looking at 1 mil+ in LA county for a 4-bdrm (at least 1mil+ for areas worth living in).


But to answer your question, yes I lived in the Bay Area when first hired at my airline. They opened a NYC base and I took it and bailed to NJ. Cost of living in NJ was still cheaper than compared to CA - and yes I bought property in NJ. Then a merger, NYC closed, and it was move to SF or LA. We chose LA. SF pricing is even worse than LA. Holy cow!


California liberal policies have really wrecked the state. Taxes and spending are out of control. Don't even get me started on how much millions $$$ LA county spent on the homeless problem for 2019 and don't have jack to show for it. Oh I heard they're following SF's lead of bussing homeless to Oakland. Is it true LA bussed quite a few over to Orange County? LOL
I was just about to bring this up. Good ‘ol proposition 13 passed decades ago that capped property taxes for homeowners at the time. Fast forward decades later and it’s led to some HUGE disparities in property taxes for people. Someone who had their home passed down from their grandparents is paying a couple thousand a year in property taxes whereas someone who purchased in the last decade or so is paying tens of thousands. I do believe California has changed it now so ANY transfer of property instantly triggers the new tax assessment. I’ve been gone for close to thirty years, but still remember a lot of the goofy stuff with how the place is run.
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Old 12-22-2019, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Back2future
Wow! You're saying that the population centers of each state have the most welfare recipients. My mind is blown!

By your own link Kentucky, one of the reddest states with the skimpiest social programs, spends the the same per capita as California.
Ky is far from the reddest of states. Far from it.
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Old 12-22-2019, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Ah yes. Bought housing and put down roots. Aka, passing homes down through family avoiding having it re-assessed for tax purposes. FO I recently flew with his family bought a house in 1952 in Culver City for about 50,000 dollars in those days. IIRC he said it's been always passed down through family, reassessed (?) once, and today it's worth 1.6 million dollars and he pays around 3k in property taxes/year. Yeah, I can see how one would be very "happy" with that situation. For the rest of us who moved here, we're looking at 1 mil+ in LA county for a 4-bdrm (at least 1mil+ for areas worth living in).


But to answer your question, yes I lived in the Bay Area when first hired at my airline. They opened a NYC base and I took it and bailed to NJ. Cost of living in NJ was still cheaper than compared to CA - and yes I bought property in NJ. Then a merger, NYC closed, and it was move to SF or LA. We chose LA. SF pricing is even worse than LA. Holy cow!


California liberal policies have really wrecked the state. Taxes and spending are out of control. Don't even get me started on how much millions $$$ LA county spent on the homeless problem for 2019 and don't have jack to show for it. Oh I heard they're following SF's lead of bussing homeless to Oakland. Is it true LA bussed quite a few over to Orange County? LOL
Passing homes down? Lolz. I moved here with no family and bought a house just fine.

You know your airline has a base in SEA and PDX, right? Feel free to make the move if you hate it so much here.
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Old 12-22-2019, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
Ky is far from the reddest of states. Far from it.

Kentucky state politics have been largely Democrat-rules for a century, but those Democrats weren’t modern progressives either.

Kentucky is very solidly red, with Jefferson and Fayette counties representing the deepest and most reliable “blue” areas in the state. This is reflected in the recent election, where an unpopular Republican lost by about 5k votes, while Republicans swept every other state office.
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In other news, a GoFundMe has been started to build a $3 billion, 300 acre site to house 150,000 homeless. They have raised $800 of their $50,000 goal. This will be fabulous!
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Originally Posted by SaintNick
Ky is far from the reddest of states. Far from it.
Dixie Democrats =/= ultra progressive socialists.
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Kentucky state politics have been largely Democrat-rules for a century, but those Democrats weren’t modern progressives either.

Kentucky is very solidly red, with Jefferson and Fayette counties representing the deepest and most reliable “blue” areas in the state. This is reflected in the recent election, where an unpopular Republican lost by about 5k votes, while Republicans swept every other state office.
Ok yes I agree. Have lived in both parts of the state. Agree with overall ky is red but a lot of blue gets voted in mainly because the two largest cities make up ~1/2 of all the population of the state.
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Originally Posted by gsphuntr
If you asked anyone if they wanted a 8-10 percent pay raise, who would say no?
Where are you getting that number?

California’s state income tax is highly progressive. Since most of you are married, you’re first $112,000 is taxed at about 4.5%. Every dollar above that is taxed at 9.3%. That doesn’t include your write offs. So if you’re married and make 250k, minus 24k standard deduction, minus 26k of before tax income (per diem, health insurance, 401k, etc...) your CA state income tax taxable income is 200k. If you itemize (which most people in CA do as housing is higher value), your effective tax rate goes down even further.

Income 250k. Married. CA state income tax ~13.5k. Effective CA state income tax rate ~5.5%.

As a single, ~200k income CA resident who itemized this year, I can tell you I paid ~11k in CA state income tax, or about 5.5% as well.

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