California income taxes
11-28-2019, 03:14 PM
#141
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If you get declared a California citizen for tax purposes, and are married to someone who is a resident of another state which is a community property state, you owe taxes on half your spouses income too, even if none of it comes from Californiaand he/she has never in his/her life even BEEN IN California.
That seems reasonable from California’s perspective too.
California has an exceedingly greedy perspective.
That seems reasonable from California’s perspective too.
California has an exceedingly greedy perspective.
11-29-2019, 04:58 PM
#143
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Posts: 442
Sometimes when I’m bored I’ll read the Supreme Court argument transcripts. Most are dry but some are interesting. One that caught my eye was Franchise Tax Board vs Hyatt. The FTB basically sent snoops into Nevada to pick through a guy’s garbage in the hope of finding some link to California so they could get their pound of flesh. That’s stalker lever BS.
11-29-2019, 06:47 PM
#144
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Posts: 12,150
Even in losing they only changed their policy to allow NO MORE THAN 0.2% so if you own 0.21% they will still threaten to put a lien on your California property if you don’t pay them the $800 a year.
https://arizonadailyindependent.com/...supreme-court/
And they make it plain on their website they WILL file a lien on your property if THEY think you owe them money and the onus is on you to prove (before their tax court) that you don’t. In the meantime, they are going to destroy you credit rating if you don’t pay up.
When you owe tax debt, we automatically have a statutory lien that attaches to all California real or personal property you own or have rights to. If you don't respond to our letters, pay in full, or set a payment plan, we may record and/or file a Notice of State Tax Lien against you. This secures and protects the debt owed to us and notifies creditors of the debt.
A Notice of State Tax Lien can be:
Recorded with one or more county recorders (real property)
Filed with the California Secretary of State (personal property)
Examples of real property:
Vacant land
Buildings
Homes
Examples of personal property:
Business equipment and assets
Mobile home
Car or truck
How a lien affects you
A lien secures our interest in your property when you don’t pay your tax debt.
Once a Notice of State Tax Lien is recorded or filed against you, the lien:
Becomes public record
Attaches to any California real or personal property you currently own or may acquire in the future
Is effective for at least 10 years (may be extended)
May impact your credit
When a lien becomes public record, you may not be able to:
Buy, sell, refinance, or transfer property
Get a personal or business loan
Get or keep a job
Although we don’t notify credit bureau agencies of the recording or filing of the Notice of State Tax Lien, they may get the public record from either the county recorders or California Secretary of State and may include it on your credit report.
A Notice of State Tax Lien can be:
Recorded with one or more county recorders (real property)
Filed with the California Secretary of State (personal property)
Examples of real property:
Vacant land
Buildings
Homes
Examples of personal property:
Business equipment and assets
Mobile home
Car or truck
How a lien affects you
A lien secures our interest in your property when you don’t pay your tax debt.
Once a Notice of State Tax Lien is recorded or filed against you, the lien:
Becomes public record
Attaches to any California real or personal property you currently own or may acquire in the future
Is effective for at least 10 years (may be extended)
May impact your credit
When a lien becomes public record, you may not be able to:
Buy, sell, refinance, or transfer property
Get a personal or business loan
Get or keep a job
Although we don’t notify credit bureau agencies of the recording or filing of the Notice of State Tax Lien, they may get the public record from either the county recorders or California Secretary of State and may include it on your credit report.
11-29-2019, 08:16 PM
#145
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Posts: 963
Buy a vacation/retirement home in a tax haven. Don't sign a lease or pay for utilities in CA. Get an expat girlfriend and tap into her community. Don't use Uber. Use a bicycle and taxi cabs. Use ATMs on overnights and spend only cash in CA. Save money. Buy a small warehouse using a corporate entity. Make the office livable and rent out the rest.
11-30-2019, 06:54 AM
#146
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A320
Posts: 1,347
Buy a vacation/retirement home in a tax haven. Don't sign a lease or pay for utilities in CA. Get an expat girlfriend and tap into her community. Don't use Uber. Use a bicycle and taxi cabs. Use ATMs on overnights and spend only cash in CA. Save money. Buy a small warehouse using a corporate entity. Make the office livable and rent out the rest.
11-30-2019, 09:43 AM
#147
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,588
Sometimes when I’m bored I’ll read the Supreme Court argument transcripts. Most are dry but some are interesting. One that caught my eye was Franchise Tax Board vs Hyatt. The FTB basically sent snoops into Nevada to pick through a guy’s garbage in the hope of finding some link to California so they could get their pound of flesh. That’s stalker lever BS.
11-30-2019, 11:04 AM
#148
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,610
Buy a vacation/retirement home in a tax haven. Don't sign a lease or pay for utilities in CA. Get an expat girlfriend and tap into her community. Don't use Uber. Use a bicycle and taxi cabs. Use ATMs on overnights and spend only cash in CA. Save money. Buy a small warehouse using a corporate entity. Make the office livable and rent out the rest.
When the state most often finds out about long past due taxes is in a divorce. Spouses can be vindictive or so I am told.
11-30-2019, 01:44 PM
#149
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,127
Yeah, either live there and deal with it, make a clean break, or do part-time non-resident in complete and documented compliance with the rules to remain a not-resident.
That last will be harder if you work there, but not impossible. Theoretically. I wouldn't want to try it.
Trying to live and/or work there in excess of the threshold and trying to hide it will get you in a lot of trouble.
That last will be harder if you work there, but not impossible. Theoretically. I wouldn't want to try it.
Trying to live and/or work there in excess of the threshold and trying to hide it will get you in a lot of trouble.
11-30-2019, 04:58 PM
#150
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Joined APC: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,122
Simple fix, repeal the 16th amendment.
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