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Old 10-11-2018, 08:09 AM
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Widebody CA is not a realistic comparison to most us. In any event a senior CA at DL doing 900K must have like one day off a month. It’s not a realistic comparison. I was just trying to make the point that for normal flying conditions (like bidding normal flying and not flying on days off) the majors all float around the same compensation. JB ,Spirit ,legacies have better 401K and slightly better rates for A320 payscale but I was just trying to make the point that G4 pay is not half of legacy pay like someone said on this thread previously.
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by KenNoisewaterMD
This could be helpful for those of us, like myself, that really only need to make a minimum of 100k/yr to make things work, and want to be home with the fam as much as possible.
Let’s stick to topic. This isn’t about earning potential, this is about earning a comfortable living while being home with the fam as much as possible, having excellent flexibility, great work rules, etc. so you can maximize your time outside of work.
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
What's the chance your average 30-40 year old that's hired tomorrow would ever see widebody CA anywhere besides American? I'm guessing pretty slim.
30 years old probably, 40 probably not but you never know. The same numbers go down the list. Lots of narrowbody CA’s will reach 500k this year.
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KenNoisewaterMD
Let’s stick to topic. This isn’t about earning potential, this is about earning a comfortable living while being home with the fam as much as possible, having excellent flexibility, great work rules, etc. so you can maximize your time outside of work.
To answer your first post:

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-Day trips mostly mornings, usually home by 2pm or earlier
-About 120K plus 401K
-15 min drive to work which is my commute
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Old 10-11-2018, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
What's the chance your average 30-40 year old that's hired tomorrow would ever see widebody CA anywhere besides American? I'm guessing pretty slim.
Probably right
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
What's the chance your average 30-40 year old that's hired tomorrow would ever see widebody CA anywhere besides American? I'm guessing pretty slim.
I'd say the chances would be very good for such an individual at Purple or Brown.
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:17 PM
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Ken,
If you're still interested

What company: SW
Where based: LAS
How have you been there: just over 3 years

What's your schedule (including time it takes to commute): 12-14 days on, choose am or pm sched like others said; I usually work 3 days on 4 days off, but cs has been putting more back to back 2 days on the schedule in the last few months (better to be home between 2 days, then gone for 4 in my book). I like to bid for max days off per month, then trip trade (tt) w company or other pilots to max my pay per day so I still get most days off per month. It's also easy to trade w co or other pilots to get am or pm trips if your original schedule isn't to your liking. I'm about half way up seniority in base so don't have enough time here to get summer vacation, but one of reasons I chose SW was because of the scheduling flexibility (tt w company or other pilots). Last two summers, I was able rearrange my trips to get a block of 8-10 days off in June/July which was awesome in my book. When I started, I was able to get LAS right away and was on Res for 7 months. I worked 15-16 days per month on Res and usually got pd 95-110 trips. Our Res system has changed since I was on Res, and now (depending on your base), you may originally have 15-16 days of Res, but only work 12-14 days. I think most Res make 95-115 trips.

What do you make (ballpark): 135-150K based on 90-100 trips per month (we use trips vs hrs like everyone else, but it's similar); That doesn't include 401k, profit sharing, benefits, etc.
I usually start the month w 85-90 trips, then use tt to max my pay per day and wind up w 90-100 for 12-13 days worked, then pick up an extra day or two if we need more $$ that month.

Do you commute: no, but there are usually plenty of commutable lines talking w those who do (most commuters live w/in 1 hr of base - SoCal, SLC, Reno, etc)

Everyone I talked w from the airlines before I started said 'live where you're based' (which it sounds like you already know). Talk w as many people from airlines you're interested in to find out the good, bad and ugly before you apply. I'm sure you'll find the best match for you to get the QOL and pay you want.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dude
All I know is that prison sex is more gentle than what the company just did to the pilot group with their first CBA-constrained pairing set. The smaller, non-commuter bases just had the QOL there destroyed.
You know about prison sex from... experience?

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You know about prison sex from... experience?
No, just what he heard from your mom
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Old 10-15-2018, 11:04 AM
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No, just what he heard from your mom
Very nice. He must have taken her lessons to heart and put them to good use, since he has another man defending him on the internet! I'm assuming the delay in response time was because you were busy washing his socks?

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