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Old 09-12-2018, 09:56 AM
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If it were up to me, I'd say "zero" emotional support animals. None. Zip. Nada. A guide dog for a blind person or a dog for a military vet with diagnosed PTSD? You bet. Everybody else? Nope.

Quite frankly, every time I see someone with an "emotional" support animal (not talking service animals) I shudder when I think how pathetically weak they are. Then I thank Heaven above for a mom and a dad who raised me to use my brain. If someone seriously can't hold it together on an airline flight without their stupid purse-dog, they shouldn't be flying at all.
Read: “look how much better of a person I am than *those* people”
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If it were up to me, I'd say "zero" emotional support animals. None. Zip. Nada. A guide dog for a blind person or a dog for a military vet with diagnosed PTSD? You bet. Everybody else? Nope.
The Air Carrier Access Act (14 CFR 382) would have to be changed. Contact the DOT and your representatives.
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Read: “look how much better of a person I am than *those* people”
Well, qualitatively, he IS better “than *those* people.” As in he can actually function on an airplane without requiring the assistance of an animal in his lap or by his side. As in if something were to happen to said cat/dog/hamster/whatever, he wouldn’t be reduced to a useless, quivering, cowering lump of sweaty cargo, unable to fend for himself or complete basic required functions, such as interact successfully in a society or land an airplane.

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Flying isn’t for everyone ....
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Originally Posted by SWA Bubba
Well, qualitatively, he IS better “than *those* people.” As in he can actually function on an airplane without requiring the assistance of an animal in his lap or by his side. As in if something were to happen to said cat/dog/hamster/whatever, he wouldn’t be reduced to a useless, quivering, cowering lump of sweaty cargo, unable to fend for himself or complete basic required functions, such as interact successfully in a society or land an airplane.

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Originally Posted by Twister
Southwest: leading the charge back to sanity.

If it were up to me, I'd say "zero" emotional support animals. None. Zip. Nada. A guide dog for a blind person or a dog for a military vet with diagnosed PTSD? You bet. Everybody else? Nope.

Quite frankly, every time I see someone with an "emotional" support animal (not talking service animals) I shudder when I think how pathetically weak they are. Then I thank Heaven above for a mom and a dad who raised me to use my brain. If someone seriously can't hold it together on an airline flight without their stupid purse-dog, they shouldn't be flying at all.
A lady worked at our office that was diagnosed with PTSD from being repeatedly beaten in domestic violence. She had a service animal (read: not an ESA). There is absolutely a huge difference. There are service animals that help people with psychological problems, but the whole ESA thing is a farce. The airlines do not have to accommodate them, but they likely take the blind-eye approach because they don't want to get all the bad press and pay lawyer fees.

But, some people do need this kind of assistance and maybe they are "pathetically weak" to you, but then again, you probably weren't beaten repeatedly for a significant portion of your adult life and constantly living in fear. It may not matter how your mom and dad raised you.
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Originally Posted by Twister
Southwest: leading the charge back to sanity.

If it were up to me, I'd say "zero" emotional support animals. None. Zip. Nada. A guide dog for a blind person or a dog for a military vet with diagnosed PTSD? You bet. Everybody else? Nope.

Quite frankly, every time I see someone with an "emotional" support animal (not talking service animals) I shudder when I think how pathetically weak they are. Then I thank Heaven above for a mom and a dad who raised me to use my brain. If someone seriously can't hold it together on an airline flight without their stupid purse-dog, they shouldn't be flying at all.
You’re right - the autistic kid and that epileptic woman are so WEAK! Damn, you are just SOOOOO much better than they are. I guess Jesus just loves you a lot more than them, and that’s awesome.
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I fully support service animals per the ADA standards. We raised guide dogs for the blind when I was in high school. It’s really amazing what improvements in a disabled person’s life are made when a service animal is in use.

I love pets.

That being said, we all know there are people that fake it. They have a disservice dog. Service animal role appropriation! It’s not only the airlines that are affected, either. Restaurants, rental properties, and other places have to deal with the phonies, too.

I had a Rottweiler casually stroll up into the flight deck about a month ago, check things out and then took up the entire floor space in the first row. The look on the middle pax’s face would have made a great picture.

While I empathize with minority (not race related) pet people passengers with emotional needs, I also am also concerned about the other passengers in the majority. Many are inconvenienced when a huge Lab cramps the legroom. Some have pet allergies. And god forbid a sketchy ESA bites somebody (it has happened).

The airlines need the ability to draw the line somewhere.
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Old 09-14-2018, 02:35 AM
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The airlines have themselves to blame, they have been bending over backwards for fifty years spoiling the travelling public rotten. The result is a customer base that feels entitled. I'm just waiting for them to show up in their "Jammies" (Small children excepted.) I watch AmTrak on You Tube, they have no problem tossing somebody off the train..... You never hear a squeek.
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Originally Posted by SeamusTheHound
You’re right - the autistic kid and that epileptic woman are so WEAK! Damn, you are just SOOOOO much better than they are. I guess Jesus just loves you a lot more than them, and that’s awesome.
They would have a trained service animal not a ESA.
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