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Old 05-29-2018, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma
So, not really a former fighter jock?

Fatima? Not even close, she was a ground pounder.

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So I’m confused, is Fatima the female Muslim version of Tim Martins or not?
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So I’m confused, is Fatima the female Muslim version of Tim Martins or not?
Wouldn't go that far. Tim Martins actually made comments and represented himself as something he is not. With her the stuff online she admits she is a mechanic and in some places "the first woman to fly on a F16" in Pakistan. Yes, technically, that statement is true - she flew on it as a mechanic rider in the back seat. Not as a pilot.

https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/12131-jpg.213429/


https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakis....369745/page-4

There, she achieved another first – the first Pakistani woman to fly in an F16.

“I could rip an open F16 and put it back together like Legos. I was so close to the aircraft, but I did not know how to fly.”

The Air Force repeatedly denied her requests to transfer into pilot training, so after her military stint was over, Fatima chose not to renew it.
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Old 05-30-2018, 07:10 AM
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What ever became of Tim Martens? Where is he today?
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Wouldn't go that far. Tim Martins actually made comments and represented himself as something he is not. With her the stuff online she admits she is a mechanic and in some places "the first woman to fly on a F16" in Pakistan. Yes, technically, that statement is true - she flew on it as a mechanic rider in the back seat. Not as a pilot.

https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/12131-jpg.213429/


https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakis....369745/page-4

There, she achieved another first – the first Pakistani woman to fly in an F16.

“I could rip an open F16 and put it back together like Legos. I was so close to the aircraft, but I did not know how to fly.”

The Air Force repeatedly denied her requests to transfer into pilot training, so after her military stint was over, Fatima chose not to renew it.

You are right.

But look how misleading that first pic is.

There's lots of misleading stuff associated with her out there. And what's up with that Vero Beach story? Is the USA so hostile that you have to call 911 to get safely to a training facility.

IDK. The whole deal is so fishy. Maybe not as bad as that guy, but pretty out there.
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Originally Posted by jcountry
You are right.

But look how misleading that first pic is.

There's lots of misleading stuff associated with her out there. And what's up with that Vero Beach story? Is the USA so hostile that you have to call 911 to get safely to a training facility.

IDK. The whole deal is so fishy. Maybe not as bad as that guy, but pretty out there.

Yeah, I’d have to agree, I’m pretty sure 911 is not meant to be used as a taxi service. The comment makes it sound as though Vero Beach is a war zone.
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Old 05-30-2018, 12:07 PM
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Can someone please fill me in on the Tim Martin story
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
Can someone please fill me in on the Tim Martin story
First Officer at American Eagle (before Envoy); claimed in an ALPA magazine interview/article that he also flew the F-16 in the Air National Guard. He wasn’t actually an F-16 pilot. And hilariously his mockery goes on and on in infamy. This was 2009 or so, if I remember correctly. I’ll let the Tim Martin experts fill in the rest.
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Originally Posted by GraceMonth
First Officer at American Eagle (before Envoy); claimed in an ALPA magazine interview/article that he also flew the F-16 in the Air National Guard. He wasn’t actually an F-16 pilot. And hilariously his mockery goes on and on in infamy. This was 2009 or so, if I remember correctly. I’ll let the Tim Martin experts fill in the rest.
Don't forget he also was a volunteer fire fighter on 9.11 or something.
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Originally Posted by Floobs
Don't forget he also was a volunteer fire fighter on 9.11 or something.
He claimed to be a volunteer firefighter with one of the engine companies in NYC that was well known from 9/11 and lost a lot of firefighters (that unit does not take volunteers similar to how many large cities are).

Not only was he not a pilot in the air guard, he wasn't even in the unit at all. From what I recall he actually tried to defend himself pretending to be someone else in the unit on one of the military forums.

It was a pretty major article in the magazine involving large pictures etc (I don't remember if it was front page or not).


I forget the premise but basically he was nominated by someone else for being so impressive with everything he does and ALPA made a big deal about it.

I'm not an expert on the events that transpired by any means, just remember reading the article and the big hubbub that followed shortly thereafter.

From google:

Flying Lessons: ALPA and Airline Pilot Caught in a Whopper

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/...-eagle-pilot-a


A Military Poser in the ALPA Magazine?



I actually found a copy of the original magazine (surprisingly to me)

http://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0...YjU3Njcw&hl=en The part you're interested in starts on page 22
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