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Old 08-08-2017, 04:50 PM
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I agree. But just think about how much influence the smart phone and tablet have influenced the world in just 10 years. Technology will be improved. The only thing holding up that development in this industry is money. An accident costs money. Pilots cost money. The tipping point will always be when we (pilots) cost more than an accident.
And that will be never... our cfo (b6) has stated that if jetblue were to have a catastrophic crash it would probably put us out of business.
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:51 PM
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I am in high school and hopeful to become a pilot. This subject obviously will play a huge role in if I choose to be one or not. What would be your guys' advice considering this?
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Old 08-08-2017, 07:37 PM
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I am in high school and hopeful to become a pilot. This subject obviously will play a huge role in if I choose to be one or not. What would be your guys' advice considering this?
ITT Peterson School of Otto Pilot repair. Or become a flight attendant. I think they'll still have those. Vending machines are heavier and aren't real helpful in evacuations.
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Old 08-08-2017, 08:08 PM
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ITT Peterson School of Otto Pilot repair. Or become a flight attendant. I think they'll still have those. Vending machines are heavier and aren't real helpful in evacuations.


lol he's just messing around.

Go for it bud, you will have a job. It's going to be a great time to get into the industry if another 9/11 doesn't happen

Decide whether or not you wanna go to college for this career which would be at called a part 141 school.

Or you could go the part 61 route which would be at a local fbo.

Do some research on this and it will help you out a lot.

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lol he's just messing around.

Go for it bud, you will have a job. It's going to be a great time to get into the industry if another 9/11 doesn't happen

Decide whether or not you wanna go to college for this career which would be at called a part 141 school.

Or you could go the part 61 route which would be at a local fbo.

Do some research on this and it will help you out a lot.

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Haha. Thanks for taking the time to provide some insight.
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Old 08-08-2017, 09:26 PM
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Just for grins, how many aircraft do you think are moving at O'Hare at any given time? Each one of those needs a launch/recovery pilot there and on the other end, plus some number to take the handoffs. Figure best case 15 minutes from push to takeoff, 4/hour per pilot on an 8 hour shift? At EVERY airport we cover? Math starts to break down quickly.....
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In a related note, I just saw an article regarding the Air Force's first enlisted female "pilot". She, along with her other group of enlisted "pilots" have been trained to fly UAVs. I always hate to call people who are strictly UAV operators, pilots. They are really glorified video game players. They may learn about the principles of flight and how to make the UAV turn, climb, descend. But there is something you miss when your own living or dying is not affected by the decisions you make.
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In a related note, I just saw an article regarding the Air Force's first enlisted female "pilot". She, along with her other group of enlisted "pilots" have been trained to fly UAVs. I always hate to call people who are strictly UAV operators, pilots. They are really glorified video game players. They may learn about the principles of flight and how to make the UAV turn, climb, descend. But there is something you miss when your own living or dying is not affected by the decisions you make.
You're speaking from ignorance here bud. Don't get mad, you simply don't know what you don't know. Get a few hundred hours flying armed ISR, CAS, convoy overwatch, or a SOF infil in the reaper where lives on the ground are truly at immediate risk and are depending on you for their survival and success, and then come back here talking about video games.

Heck, try flying one of the special payloads costing millions, identified as critical assets that we only have one or two of in the entire force, and take it to a high priority tasking near a thunderstorm with only a tiny crappy camera to look through and avoid weather that will crash the plane in an instant. Do that a hundred times with a one of a kind payload, then come back and tell everyone how it wasn't any different than playing COD with the bros and required no airmanship.

Seriously, there are ANG and AFR units hiring for MQ-9 positions, and most of them won't have to deploy. Give it a shot, come back and let us know how easy or casual you found the job.

USAF enlisted members are, if I recall correctly, being trained only to fly the global hawk. That platform is significantly more automated than the MQ-1, MQ-9, and several other platforms. Even with the automation, I highly doubt that the opportunity to crash a "platform" worth over $100 mil is equivalent to playing a video game in the minds of anyone who actually does that for a living.
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Originally Posted by NEDude
In a related note, I just saw an article regarding the Air Force's first enlisted female "pilot". She, along with her other group of enlisted "pilots" have been trained to fly UAVs. I always hate to call people who are strictly UAV operators, pilots. They are really glorified video game players. They may learn about the principles of flight and how to make the UAV turn, climb, descend. But there is something you miss when your own living or dying is not affected by the decisions you make.
I love when the Air Force does that. Good for her, but she's not a pilot! And what does her gender matter?
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Old 08-09-2017, 06:13 AM
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You're speaking from ignorance here bud. Don't get mad, you simply don't know what you don't know. Get a few hundred hours flying armed ISR, CAS, convoy overwatch, or a SOF infil in the reaper where lives on the ground are truly at immediate risk and are depending on you for their survival and success, and then come back here talking about video games.

Heck, try flying one of the special payloads costing millions, identified as critical assets that we only have one or two of in the entire force, and take it to a high priority tasking near a thunderstorm with only a tiny crappy camera to look through and avoid weather that will crash the plane in an instant. Do that a hundred times with a one of a kind payload, then come back and tell everyone how it wasn't any different than playing COD with the bros and required no airmanship.

Seriously, there are ANG and AFR units hiring for MQ-9 positions, and most of them won't have to deploy. Give it a shot, come back and let us know how easy or casual you found the job.

USAF enlisted members are, if I recall correctly, being trained only to fly the global hawk. That platform is significantly more automated than the MQ-1, MQ-9, and several other platforms. Even with the automation, I highly doubt that the opportunity to crash a "platform" worth over $100 mil is equivalent to playing a video game in the minds of anyone who actually does that for a living.
I think you missed his whole point about not having any skin in the game doing all the missions you stated above. No one is saying that it's not an important job and you have the opportunity to scratch off a very expensive piece of equipment. What he was saying is that if it did happen you would go back to your rack none the worse for wear other than having to deal with your commander about why it happened.

I've sat and watched guys out at the soccer field do amazing feats with RC aircraft that are very expensive and require skill to fly, however I don't know a one of them that would claim to be pilots unless they actually flew real airplanes....from the flight deck.
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