NEDude

Can you provide a specific list of freedoms and liberties enjoyed in the United States that are not enjoyed by the vast majority of developed, western style Democracies?

tomgoodman

Of course, because we captured them fair and square. In fact, they raced toward our lines to make sure that happened. Another win for the USA!

kevbo

AOr even some of the better third world countries. I know some old Vietnamese guys that say they had almost unlimited freedom back home. They were surprised to learn that in the US, everything is illegal and it cost a lot more to get out of trouble. The PTB repealed habeas corpus and recently liberated civil forfeiture. A decent economy along with our above average socioeconomic status paint over a lot of nasty realities here at home.

qball

C'mon. That's all fake. Didn't you ever see Capricorn 1. Maybe OJ can talk about it once he gets out.

METO Guido

They did indeed Captain Tom. After special teams established contact & coordinated transfer. The one thing Von Braun (a titled aristocrat) didn't have on arrival was QOL. El Paso in '46 and later 50's Huntsville not being the sophisticated envy of high society they are today. Which is kind of the point. QOL & opportunity is, in almost every aspect, so much better now for billions more people. Odd so many are so pre-occupied with bitterness over where they perceive themselves to be relative to everyone else.

Got nothing against Europe. Enjoying very much watching some of the biggest hearts on the planet close in on Paris this weekend. Praying only nothing awful happens. This country still swings the biggest aviation bat by nearly any measure. So not yet shaking in my boots simply by virtue of what Norwegian is presently attempting. But…things change. If they, the Chinese, or anyone else for that matter passes us by, they've certainly cleared a high bar, congratulations.

BTW Ned, Robert Goddard. Humble father of the liquid-fueled rocket, March 1926.

SpeedyVagabond

Because the U.S. is better than their third world country they currently reside in. This fact doesn't refute my statement that the U.S. is not ranked highest on any quality of life studies. We once were a great nation. We could be again. But it would take a dramatic turn around of many of our citizens. Considering we just elected and still support an ill mannered bully and a fool who has no idea what being a leader or a great person is about and who cares nothing for bettering himself in any meaningful way, I'm sadly confident that America's decline is irreversible. After all, our leaders are a reflection of us.

SonicFlyer

Except that NZ and Switzerland are socialist states.

NEDude

No they are not. They are social democracies, big difference. Switzerland has the purest form of Democracy on earth.

Nevjets

If socialism is democratically chosen, it's still socialism nonetheless.

Nevjets

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