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Old 07-05-2017, 12:31 PM
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Education doesn't necessarily mean college. It could mean learning a big vocation as well A well educated population is a more innovative population. The days of working as an unskilled laborer and making a good wage are pretty much over.
You should inform Obama, he was on a crusade to close such places like ITT.
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Old 07-05-2017, 01:45 PM
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You should inform Obama, he was on a crusade to close such places like ITT.
Why, if I am in support of some liberal policies, do I have to love all liberals and their actions? That's what is wrong with politics. "Oh, you want single payer health care? Then you must want to live in Communist Russia and want everyone to stand in bread lines! Burn him!"
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Old 07-06-2017, 02:04 AM
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Except in places like Scandinavia and Canada where they have a better quality of life and are better educated.
You sure about that? Canadians I know wait multiple weeks to see a doctor in their socialized medical society...while hoping they aren't the next victims of "pray for Canada/Sweden" thanks to the influx of refugees. My sister, a staunch hippie, moved to Denmark, returned in 6 months after being angry about paying 53% in taxes.

Also, if they are better educated, why do we have long lines of international students awaiting H1B visas to study in US universities?
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Old 07-06-2017, 03:40 AM
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Check out "Capitol in the 21st century", lots of historical data. Low interest rates have over doubled the price of pensions and insurance. Corporations have responded by dropping pensions and greatly increasing their employees costs for medical coverage. Government budgets are controlled by elected officials, not the help, blame the right people. The USA is a great place if you can get an upper middle class or higher wage. There are better places to be poor. The best argument for single payer is in the fact that people who have it tend to live longer.
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Old 07-06-2017, 08:37 AM
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I'm not proposing socialism. Tax the richest more. Tax the poorest less.
You're right, you're not proposing socialism, you're proposing communism!

A progressive income tax is a basic tenant of Marx.
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Check out "Capitol in the 21st century", lots of historical data. Low interest rates have over doubled the price of pensions and insurance. Corporations have responded by dropping pensions and greatly increasing their employees costs for medical coverage. Government budgets are controlled by elected officials, not the help, blame the right people. The USA is a great place if you can get an upper middle class or higher wage. There are better places to be poor. The best argument for single payer is in the fact that people who have it tend to live longer.
FYI, that book has been criticized by many across the political spectrum for things such as; flawed methodology and basic concepts as well as data errors/math errors. Wealth redistribution ... aka ... socialism ... only works until you run out of other people's money. Basing government revenues upon a few rich people is categorically ignorant. As soon as they die or move out of your jurisdiction, or when your government eventually overspends (see Illinois), who are you going to get the money from?

Curious, how do low interest rates double the price of pensions? The governments who create these policies surely must understand that during times low returns of investment, they must pay more to the funds to keep them solvent. It's basic math. Every state that has a failing pension neglected to adequately fund their pensions during these times.

Capitalism has been the greatest wealth generating system the world has known. People from around the world are trying to get to America. I recently spoke to a German, a professional, who has been trying and is unable. I don't know what utopia you think exists outside of America.

Lastly, we have a single payer healthcare system in the USA. It is called the US Department of Veteran's Affairs. Ask any vet or doctor who is involved with the VA and they'll tell you what a nightmare it is.

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The best healthcare I ever had was Healthy SF, but it came at a HUGE cost, I had to live in San Francisco!
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The best healthcare I ever had was Healthy SF, but it came at a HUGE cost, I had to live in San Francisco!


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Piketty wrote the most comprehensive historical economic review. No other contemporary economist has covered a breadth of process and outcome nearly as well. Capalism motivates serfs to produce more for their master which produces greater wealth. It makes for a much more difficult life if you are not naturally competitive. Everyone in the USA thinks they are a temporarily embarresed billionaire.

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Capalism motivates serfs to produce more for their master which produces greater wealth.
Right which is why the US has the highest quality of life anywhere in the world? Seriously man, put down the bong, and try some critical thinking.
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