My $0.02
11-28-2010, 10:21 PM
#21
Self Employed.
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
Foxy
Foxy~
At this point you need to quit your job completely and try to live off what you can make as a new pilot. Get into the grind. Start selling off your possessions to pay the rent. See for yourself the huge stack of resumes that every aviation company has. Then come back here and tell us that we are crazy.
If you really love aviation as much as you say then tomorrow is a waste unless it is spent in a plane. You have no excuses. Anything less than total commitment would be a disservice to your lifelong passion and ardent position of total aviation love.
The rest of us here have already done that. Now it is your turn.
Skyhigh
Professional aviation is very different from touch and goes in a 172. Oh yea and I too have flown Beavers in the bush for many years. The fun wears off there too.
At this point you need to quit your job completely and try to live off what you can make as a new pilot. Get into the grind. Start selling off your possessions to pay the rent. See for yourself the huge stack of resumes that every aviation company has. Then come back here and tell us that we are crazy.
If you really love aviation as much as you say then tomorrow is a waste unless it is spent in a plane. You have no excuses. Anything less than total commitment would be a disservice to your lifelong passion and ardent position of total aviation love.
The rest of us here have already done that. Now it is your turn.
Skyhigh
Professional aviation is very different from touch and goes in a 172. Oh yea and I too have flown Beavers in the bush for many years. The fun wears off there too.
11-28-2010, 11:40 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: E-175 FO
Posts: 72
Foxy~
At this point you need to quit your job completely and try to live off what you can make as a new pilot. Get into the grind. Start selling off your possessions to pay the rent. See for yourself the huge stack of resumes that every aviation company has. Then come back here and tell us that we are crazy.
At this point you need to quit your job completely and try to live off what you can make as a new pilot. Get into the grind. Start selling off your possessions to pay the rent. See for yourself the huge stack of resumes that every aviation company has. Then come back here and tell us that we are crazy.
If you really love aviation as much as you say then tomorrow is a waste unless it is spent in a plane. You have no excuses. Anything less than total commitment would be a disservice to your lifelong passion and ardent position of total aviation love.
The rest of us here have already done that. Now it is your turn.
Skyhigh
Professional aviation is very different from touch and goes in a 172.
Skyhigh
Professional aviation is very different from touch and goes in a 172.
Oh yea and I too have flown Beavers in the bush for many years. The fun wears off there too.
Perhaps flying isn't for you?
-Fox
11-29-2010, 06:43 AM
#23
Self Employed.
Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
Making a living
You do realize that almost every single profession on the planet has people that say the same thing about it, right? ... and that there's always some contingent of people who truly enjoy what they do, even if they do it all their life. There are also people who will never be happy, regardless of what they're doing or how much they make.
Perhaps flying isn't for you?
-Fox
I am an average American who needs to make a living. Flying is for me however poverty and a lifetime of hardship is not. Most can put up with it for a while however eventually everyone has bills to pay and most have a life to fund.
I have already made over two decades of sacrifice as a pilot. If you are not ready to fully commit now then perhaps it is you who is not right for aviation. Perhaps you are trying to sell yourself on the idea.
Pull the trigger. Bet your life on it. Make a decade of sacrifices while your friends drive new cars and buy houses and then you can come back here and lecture the rest of us who have already been there.
Skyhigh
Last edited by SkyHigh; 11-29-2010 at 07:04 AM.
11-29-2010, 09:01 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Posts: 461
In my original post, my purpose was to show my logical path of making a decision to leave the industry.
Instead of typing pages of anecdotes and events I will leave my calculations for said decision.
Log ALL of your duty time, flying, sitting, time away from home, (in hours) and divide your salary by that time. What is your $/hr. At many times in my career, it was well below minimum wage.
There is also the value of sleeping in my bed every night and the company of my friends and family during every holiday.
There are some that will read my opinion and call me a bad example, weak, unlucky, etc. That's fine.
I stand by my decisions and original post.
CE
Instead of typing pages of anecdotes and events I will leave my calculations for said decision.
Log ALL of your duty time, flying, sitting, time away from home, (in hours) and divide your salary by that time. What is your $/hr. At many times in my career, it was well below minimum wage.
There is also the value of sleeping in my bed every night and the company of my friends and family during every holiday.
There are some that will read my opinion and call me a bad example, weak, unlucky, etc. That's fine.
I stand by my decisions and original post.
CE
11-29-2010, 01:08 PM
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Airbus 319/320 Captain
Posts: 880
11-29-2010, 01:23 PM
#26
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Joined APC: May 2005
Position: Corporate Pilot
Posts: 7,119
brianb,
How do you know how many "fans" (your word) I may or may not have? I appreciate your concern but am quite satisfied with my results. I am not here to collect a following but to save lives.
Many of my most ardent opponents here eventually get what it is that I am writing about and make the conversion. Since you have shown me much interest as of late it suggests that you possibly are struggling with keeping the faith as well. No matter how much you resist eventually the reality will creep in.
When the time comes we will welcome you with open arms.
Skyhigh
P.S. I like the term "buzz kill" and think that it is a good description. I would like to use it if you don't mind.
Last edited by SkyHigh; 11-29-2010 at 03:07 PM.
11-30-2010, 10:16 AM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Airbus 319/320 Captain
Posts: 880
brianb,
How do you know how many "fans" (your word) I may or may not have? I appreciate your concern but am quite satisfied with my results. I am not here to collect a following but to save lives.
Many of my most ardent opponents here eventually get what it is that I am writing about and make the conversion. Since you have shown me much interest as of late it suggests that you possibly are struggling with keeping the faith as well. No matter how much you resist eventually the reality will creep in.
When the time comes we will welcome you with open arms.
Skyhigh
P.S. I like the term "buzz kill" and think that it is a good description. I would like to use it if you don't mind.
How do you know how many "fans" (your word) I may or may not have? I appreciate your concern but am quite satisfied with my results. I am not here to collect a following but to save lives.
Many of my most ardent opponents here eventually get what it is that I am writing about and make the conversion. Since you have shown me much interest as of late it suggests that you possibly are struggling with keeping the faith as well. No matter how much you resist eventually the reality will creep in.
When the time comes we will welcome you with open arms.
Skyhigh
P.S. I like the term "buzz kill" and think that it is a good description. I would like to use it if you don't mind.
11-30-2010, 10:29 AM
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
Posts: 13,839
Feel free. Glad I can provide you with some assisstance. While I continue to agree with portions of your rhetoric, I cannot and will not bend to all of your assertions. Again, for your clarity, balance is essential IMO in all things Sky. You have no balance and therefore you lack credibility in all areas. Yes, some of what you push is true but a great portion is just flat wrong. You and I have have a difference of opinion and thats ok. I prefer to look at both sides while you only look at the Dark side of the Force. If you were a "successful" Airline pilot, you might hold a different viewpoint. I await, with unbridled eagerness, your flavorful reply.
USMCFLYR
11-30-2010, 02:51 PM
#30
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Airbus 319/320 Captain
Posts: 880
The anticipation is killing me! JK. I think Sky needs a little Ying to his Yang in this fight. I will try convince him that there are some great stories/careers in Aviation and hopefully, one day, we can accept him with open arms into the good side of the force. No, i'm not a total geek.
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