Pilot shortage... Again!
04-28-2012, 05:55 PM
#451
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Based on the Captains history, it could be said that his FO's of the past maybe saved the day a time or two. Then one day he got paired up with a weak FO. Getting the experience before the job, may have prevented them from ever getting to those two positions in the first place.
The public wants more experience up front, that public votes, those politicians have listened. Despite what you think, you're not entitled to anything. Get 1500 hours and move on. You know... there was a time not long ago when even the regionals wouldn't touch a guy with less than 3K TT, and I never heard any *****ing back then. Just dudes working hard to move up. Whiners.
The public wants more experience up front, that public votes, those politicians have listened. Despite what you think, you're not entitled to anything. Get 1500 hours and move on. You know... there was a time not long ago when even the regionals wouldn't touch a guy with less than 3K TT, and I never heard any *****ing back then. Just dudes working hard to move up. Whiners.
04-28-2012, 06:50 PM
#452
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Kinda makes you wonder how these two got to the position of "pilot" with Colgan. I understand that the Captain had many failures during his career and yet he was still able to obtain a position in the left seat. The F/O I'm not sure about. Do you think that the industry should impose a "maximum" number of failed events during a career? Exceed these numbers and your out. Would you also include failures during training? Maybe having tougher standards would decrease the number of Knuckleheads out there and allow more of the low time competent one's to move ahead quicker. What say you?
This memorize the ATP written and that's enough, followed by a type rating ride does not prove that a person actually understands why or how an airplane flies.
04-28-2012, 07:48 PM
#453
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All great till some d**khead examiner fails you, but of course those of you who think there should be a limit to failures could never fail a check ride, you are perfect. I think the real answer is having a good background of experience before stepping into an airliner cockpit, simple stuff like having flown in icing. I do agree we need to work on teaching aerodynamics a bit more.
04-29-2012, 07:37 AM
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All great till some d**khead examiner fails you, but of course those of you who think there should be a limit to failures could never fail a check ride, you are perfect. I think the real answer is having a good background of experience before stepping into an airliner cockpit, simple stuff like having flown in icing. I do agree we need to work on teaching aerodynamics a bit more.
04-29-2012, 08:57 AM
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I respect your opinion. I don't think there should be a number of failures that kick you out, I think the industry will do that by itself. The last thing we all need is more stress in this career, with a drop dead failure number, it will not help at all.
04-29-2012, 12:00 PM
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I quoted the wrong numbers. About a week ago I saw an A-320 Capt job in China for $18K/month, and a couple of days ago at $20K/month.
and...
Just saw this job yesterday:
ERJ-145 and -190 Captains wanted...pay $15K/month....6 wks On/2 wks Off, or 6 wks On/3 wks Off, or 1 month On/1 month Off, increasing annual bonus, and, after 1 year, "opportunity of A320 type training".
cliff
HHN
and...
No, the "Already qualified with 1000 hours of Airbus 320 time" pilots are limited.
Key difference.
Key difference.
ERJ-145 and -190 Captains wanted...pay $15K/month....6 wks On/2 wks Off, or 6 wks On/3 wks Off, or 1 month On/1 month Off, increasing annual bonus, and, after 1 year, "opportunity of A320 type training".
cliff
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04-29-2012, 12:42 PM
#458
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I think you may be right, however, would self analysis after many failures cause you to leave the career? I have failed one checkride(PC) as a Professional Pilot. Too me, once is enough and I would never want to experience that again. My career has spanned 23 years so far. What would be the "magic" number before embarrassment and doubt set in and you began to question your ability as an Aviator? I think embarrassment alone would be a big factor for me, i.e., not having the capability to do the job anymore. What you think?
04-30-2012, 06:14 AM
#459
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One bad day
We had one bad day in Buffalo. This is not a trend. Accidents happen and will continue to do so. The fact is that air travel today is safer than it has ever been. Automation and modern procedures are working well to consistently reduce accidents.
The way to increase experience in the flight deck is to raise the price of a ticket. Demand will drop off sharply. New pilots will not be able to get a job.
Skyhigh
The way to increase experience in the flight deck is to raise the price of a ticket. Demand will drop off sharply. New pilots will not be able to get a job.
Skyhigh
05-03-2012, 02:42 PM
#460
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Position: Airbus 319/320 Captain
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We had one bad day in Buffalo. This is not a trend. Accidents happen and will continue to do so. The fact is that air travel today is safer than it has ever been. Automation and modern procedures are working well to consistently reduce accidents.
The way to increase experience in the flight deck is to raise the price of a ticket. Demand will drop off sharply. New pilots will not be able to get a job.
Skyhigh
The way to increase experience in the flight deck is to raise the price of a ticket. Demand will drop off sharply. New pilots will not be able to get a job.
Skyhigh
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