If being a pilot is so bad...
01-27-2009, 03:34 PM
#111
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Gee,, I just spent the last 15 minutes reading some of the stuff over on the regional forums. 
Why is it that DE727UPS and USMCFLYR are not over there shoring up all the bad sentiment and less than cheery posting that is going on over there.
They need you guys. Some of those posters are saying bad things about being an airline pilot.
One guy even dared to compare military service to that of an airline pilot and he made the airline pilots life sound worse !!
Someone needs to do something. What if it spreads?
SKyHigh
Why is it that DE727UPS and USMCFLYR are not over there shoring up all the bad sentiment and less than cheery posting that is going on over there. They need you guys. Some of those posters are saying bad things about being an airline pilot.
One guy even dared to compare military service to that of an airline pilot and he made the airline pilots life sound worse !!Someone needs to do something. What if it spreads?
SKyHigh
01-27-2009, 05:34 PM
#112
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I guess I could move some of those threads over here, but then they wouldn't get the same exposure.
In any case, again, Skyhigh seems to be begging for me to post. I'd rather just lurk until I see something I disagree with. Times are tough at the regionals these days. There will be much disillousionment and dissatisfaction. Those that stick with it will be the ones that might score a good job down the road. Whether the career is worthy of sticking with is up to each to decide, based on his personal situation.
Skyhigh once said it was his job to show the negative side of the career in spite of any evidence to the contrary. He will never make a positive post. It was the job of those who disagreed to counter otherwise his opinion becomes a fact. I find that laughable...
I don't think countering the negative news is always needed. People can decide the truth of their situation for themselves. To each his own.
In any case, again, Skyhigh seems to be begging for me to post. I'd rather just lurk until I see something I disagree with. Times are tough at the regionals these days. There will be much disillousionment and dissatisfaction. Those that stick with it will be the ones that might score a good job down the road. Whether the career is worthy of sticking with is up to each to decide, based on his personal situation.
Skyhigh once said it was his job to show the negative side of the career in spite of any evidence to the contrary. He will never make a positive post. It was the job of those who disagreed to counter otherwise his opinion becomes a fact. I find that laughable...
I don't think countering the negative news is always needed. People can decide the truth of their situation for themselves. To each his own.
01-27-2009, 07:54 PM
#113
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01-27-2009, 08:15 PM
#114
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Btw - I'm an honorary in a rough sort of way.
I did the fly-over for the Texas-vs-Kansas game back in '05.
What a time out on the town after the game!
USMCFLYR
01-27-2009, 09:48 PM
#115
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Lurk
I guess I could move some of those threads over here, but then they wouldn't get the same exposure.
In any case, again, Skyhigh seems to be begging for me to post. I'd rather just lurk until I see something I disagree with. Times are tough at the regionals these days. There will be much disillousionment and dissatisfaction. Those that stick with it will be the ones that might score a good job down the road. Whether the career is worthy of sticking with is up to each to decide, based on his personal situation.
Skyhigh once said it was his job to show the negative side of the career in spite of any evidence to the contrary. He will never make a positive post. It was the job of those who disagreed to counter otherwise his opinion becomes a fact. I find that laughable...
I don't think countering the negative news is always needed. People can decide the truth of their situation for themselves. To each his own.
In any case, again, Skyhigh seems to be begging for me to post. I'd rather just lurk until I see something I disagree with. Times are tough at the regionals these days. There will be much disillousionment and dissatisfaction. Those that stick with it will be the ones that might score a good job down the road. Whether the career is worthy of sticking with is up to each to decide, based on his personal situation.
Skyhigh once said it was his job to show the negative side of the career in spite of any evidence to the contrary. He will never make a positive post. It was the job of those who disagreed to counter otherwise his opinion becomes a fact. I find that laughable...
I don't think countering the negative news is always needed. People can decide the truth of their situation for themselves. To each his own.
There should be volumes in there that you disagree with. Mostly they are complaining about the same issues that I have been writing about. I especially like this quote from you: "Times are tough at the regionals these days. There will be much disillusionment and dissatisfaction. Those that stick with it will be the ones that might score a good job down the road". Might score a good job? If I were a quote saving kind of guy that one would be a gem. I would be more careful if I were you.
I am really beginning to get worried. How am I supposed to be able to post anything when every other post around here sounds like something I would have written?
Skyhigh
01-27-2009, 10:16 PM
#116
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I think Hackman's character (Reigart) was slamming Owen's Charater (Burnett) for wanting out because he does not like acting like a naval aviator, not so much flying the friendly skies in a bus.
01-28-2009, 12:12 PM
#117
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SkyHigh,
I've said this before but I'll mention it again. You should leave this aviation thing behind you. Your compulsive need to belittle, reprimand and preach to any and all professional pilots is not healthy my friend. You've got some serious issues going on here.
Here are the facts.
You didn't make it to the show, not everybody does, tough luck.
Things have changed in the industry it does not affect you because you are out of it.
Your obsessive compulsive personality probably had more to do with you not making it than you think.
You are reportedly successful in life beyond your failed attempt at an aviation career. Congratulations you should be happy with that and leave this behind you haven't done so emotionally.
The industry didn't fail you, you failed at the industry. A deep and retrospective look at yourself is going to be very healthy. Crying out at everybody who has made it in the aviation world is not going to make you feel any better. If you can't do this by yourself get some professional help and put this painful episode behind you.
If you never cracked 40K in twenty years of flying my friend YOU were doing something very very wrong.
I've said this before but I'll mention it again. You should leave this aviation thing behind you. Your compulsive need to belittle, reprimand and preach to any and all professional pilots is not healthy my friend. You've got some serious issues going on here.
Here are the facts.
You didn't make it to the show, not everybody does, tough luck.
Things have changed in the industry it does not affect you because you are out of it.
Your obsessive compulsive personality probably had more to do with you not making it than you think.
You are reportedly successful in life beyond your failed attempt at an aviation career. Congratulations you should be happy with that and leave this behind you haven't done so emotionally.
The industry didn't fail you, you failed at the industry. A deep and retrospective look at yourself is going to be very healthy. Crying out at everybody who has made it in the aviation world is not going to make you feel any better. If you can't do this by yourself get some professional help and put this painful episode behind you.
If you never cracked 40K in twenty years of flying my friend YOU were doing something very very wrong.
01-28-2009, 02:16 PM
#118
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Hobby
SkyHigh,
I've said this before but I'll mention it again. You should leave this aviation thing behind you. Your compulsive need to belittle, reprimand and preach to any and all professional pilots is not healthy my friend. You've got some serious issues going on here.
Here are the facts.
You didn't make it to the show, not everybody does, tough luck.
Things have changed in the industry it does not affect you because you are out of it.
Your obsessive compulsive personality probably had more to do with you not making it than you think.
You are reportedly successful in life beyond your failed attempt at an aviation career. Congratulations you should be happy with that and leave this behind you haven't done so emotionally.
The industry didn't fail you, you failed at the industry. A deep and retrospective look at yourself is going to be very healthy. Crying out at everybody who has made it in the aviation world is not going to make you feel any better. If you can't do this by yourself get some professional help and put this painful episode behind you.
If you never cracked 40K in twenty years of flying my friend YOU were doing something very very wrong.
I've said this before but I'll mention it again. You should leave this aviation thing behind you. Your compulsive need to belittle, reprimand and preach to any and all professional pilots is not healthy my friend. You've got some serious issues going on here.
Here are the facts.
You didn't make it to the show, not everybody does, tough luck.
Things have changed in the industry it does not affect you because you are out of it.
Your obsessive compulsive personality probably had more to do with you not making it than you think.
You are reportedly successful in life beyond your failed attempt at an aviation career. Congratulations you should be happy with that and leave this behind you haven't done so emotionally.
The industry didn't fail you, you failed at the industry. A deep and retrospective look at yourself is going to be very healthy. Crying out at everybody who has made it in the aviation world is not going to make you feel any better. If you can't do this by yourself get some professional help and put this painful episode behind you.
If you never cracked 40K in twenty years of flying my friend YOU were doing something very very wrong.
I am happy that you were able to reach your career objectives, however, please don't try and insult me or my personality simply because I have a different, experience, perspective and opinion than you. There are plenty of people who venture here who share my opinions and appreciate my participation.
It is true that I have left my youthful dreams behind however I don't think that I will ever leave aviation behind. Besides I still have over 20 years of eligibility ahead of me and am not ready to count myself out. Aviation has plenty of ninth inning success stories. I still have plenty of time.
If you really know the keys to success in aviation and life then I wish you were around a few years ago to have helped me during a time when I needed it badly instead of trying to insult me now.
A few corrections:
1. I have never been accused of having an "obsessive compulsive personality" before though I know that the consideration is prevalent in aviation.
2. My peak income in aviation was $42,500 one year as a 757 first officer.
Skyhigh
01-28-2009, 03:37 PM
#119
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01-28-2009, 03:46 PM
#120
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I appreciate your concern however this forum is a hobby of mine. I enjoy writing about aviation and am still very passionate about it. Most of the people who venture here are either ex-airline pilots or wannabes. My presence here is not out of place.
If you really know the keys to success in aviation and life then I wish you were around a few years ago to have helped me during a time when I needed it badly instead of trying to insult me now.
1. I have never been accused of having an "obsessive compulsive personality" before though I know that the consideration is prevalent in aviation.
2. My peak income in aviation was $42,500 one year as a 757 first officer.
Skyhigh
If you really know the keys to success in aviation and life then I wish you were around a few years ago to have helped me during a time when I needed it badly instead of trying to insult me now.
1. I have never been accused of having an "obsessive compulsive personality" before though I know that the consideration is prevalent in aviation.
2. My peak income in aviation was $42,500 one year as a 757 first officer.
Skyhigh
There are a heck of a lot of current airline/cargo/military/corporate/you name it professional pilots on this site that you are constantly trying to "school" with your message of defeat and your joyous life story in the aviation after life. You don't write about aviation you write about how bad it sucked and how happy you are to be out of it.
"If you really know the keys to success in aviation and life then I wish you were around a few years ago to have helped me during a time when I needed it badly instead of trying to insult me now."
I have helped multiple people get into major airline seats. I have no idea who you are so how in the hell could I have helped you when you needed it? Even if I did know who you were based on your posts here I wouldn't have helped you. I don't waste my time ------. I save my efforts for people who are working hard AND have a positive attitude.
"1. I have never been accused of having an "obsessive compulsive personality" before though I know that the consideration is prevalent in aviation."
Go back and read your posts they are like a broken record. The same message OVER and OVER and OVER again it never changes. Maybe now that you know you can work on changing it.
"2. My peak income in aviation was $42,500 one year as a 757 first officer."
My comment about never making more than 40K a year after 20 years still applies. What the heck were you doing all that time?
From your attitude it is blatantly clear to me why you had the troubles that you did. If in fact you even are who you say. I am starting to doubt that as well.
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