Pilot Jobs Don't Pay Enough
#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 144
It definitely helps to have no expectations. For the past 50 years pilot jobs have been somewhat the same, but with the recent advances in technology I think the risk/reward ratio will get worse for pilots. You can already see the negative impact that the strive toward 100% efficiency is having. I'm talking about looking at the big picture and not just taking a snapshot of the last decade. Most other fields are in the same predicament however.
When you are planning to go into any profession you have to analyze the risk/reward ratio and see if it makes sense.
The great thing about US pilot rules versus ICAO rules is we can take a couple years off and come back like nothing happened, versus ICAO where you would lose your certificates.
When you are planning to go into any profession you have to analyze the risk/reward ratio and see if it makes sense.
The great thing about US pilot rules versus ICAO rules is we can take a couple years off and come back like nothing happened, versus ICAO where you would lose your certificates.
#53
I'm confident most people from those types of places don't know any better about the world that exists outside of those types of places. Living in an overpriced, filthy, dangerous, cold, confined, statist, horizonless, s-hole when much better alternatives exist is not rational for most, without external factors.
#55
Disinterested Third Party
Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,260
I was just chatting with an acquaintance not far from here; he lives in the city, has access to movies and entertainment, any kind of food one could think of, is far from racist, is hardly overweight, not at all entitled, has a degree, and manages to own his home on a regional captain's salary. He's about ten years into his career. Beautiful wife & kids.
Inexplicably, he's doing it on under three hundred grand. How could this be?
#57
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#59
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I expect to have good equipment to fly with good maintenance.
I expect to have the necessary tools to do the job.
I expect that paychecks will be on time, as agreed, and won't bounce.
I expect honesty.
Those expectations have been violated at one time or another, and in each case I've picked up my ball and moved to the next court.
I expect to have the necessary tools to do the job.
I expect that paychecks will be on time, as agreed, and won't bounce.
I expect honesty.
Those expectations have been violated at one time or another, and in each case I've picked up my ball and moved to the next court.
#60
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 463
Hey at least you fly jets and aren't addicted to whirly birds. Those pay-scales, schedules, locations, and career outlooks will make you cringe.
As far as pay goes, if I can make it to $150,000 a year with a good schedule I will be exceeding my expectations at the start of this aviation journey. Anything beyond that I'll be living a dream.
In the mean time while I make this transition, my wife works and is picking up my slack. We'll cut back what we have to in terms of lifestyle, and while we haven't been frugal we've tried to make wise life choices.
My small family is living very comfortably near Seattle on $100,000 a year with plenty of wiggle room to keep a roof over our heads. Few people I know my age are making what we make and they seem to be very comfortable also.
My blocks are all checked and I can uncheck quite a few of them and still be perfectly happy. Do I sometimes wish I had a M-F 9-5 job? Sure, just about every weekend my friends and family are out on their boats or camping in the hills and I'm off to work. But whatever. It's still better than my life was in the Army!
Also, I've lived in rural America as well as urban America. Anyone calling Seattle a ****-hole must be using some interesting metrics.
As far as pay goes, if I can make it to $150,000 a year with a good schedule I will be exceeding my expectations at the start of this aviation journey. Anything beyond that I'll be living a dream.
In the mean time while I make this transition, my wife works and is picking up my slack. We'll cut back what we have to in terms of lifestyle, and while we haven't been frugal we've tried to make wise life choices.
My small family is living very comfortably near Seattle on $100,000 a year with plenty of wiggle room to keep a roof over our heads. Few people I know my age are making what we make and they seem to be very comfortable also.
My blocks are all checked and I can uncheck quite a few of them and still be perfectly happy. Do I sometimes wish I had a M-F 9-5 job? Sure, just about every weekend my friends and family are out on their boats or camping in the hills and I'm off to work. But whatever. It's still better than my life was in the Army!
Also, I've lived in rural America as well as urban America. Anyone calling Seattle a ****-hole must be using some interesting metrics.
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