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06-13-2021, 09:34 AM

#481

gollum

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Originally Posted by maxjet

On the W2 it is listed on all 3 columns as gross pay. It does the deduction for non taxable as you go to the bottom of the column. For example in 2019 I grossed 352,000.00. I paid fed. Tax on 313,000.00.

Never really understood why people didn’t consider perdiem as compensation. It is higher value money because there is no tax.

1. Per diem is NOT compensation; if it were the gov would tax it as income. It’s great if you want to save it and all but some people choose to not eat the airplane catering or hotel breakfast all the time. This offsets that cost.

2. Per diem is NOT included anywhere in box 1,2, or 3 of your W2. Its listed on your pay statement but not on the W2 anywhere.

06-13-2021, 12:11 PM

#482

CRJJ

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Originally Posted by Joachim

You are well paid for sure. What some guys at Kalitta may not realize is that there are places where you can make more still with more days off. Kalitta pay is on par with Spirit/Jetblue and legacy narrow body. The difference is that at K4 you have to work for your 350K, at an LCC you game the system for 350k and spend alot of time on the app, and at some legacies that is min guarantee.

You guys do have one of the coolest aviation gigs around though. Having worked in the above categories and then a few K4 was definitely the most interesting.

Would you include Frontier in that group?

06-13-2021, 12:52 PM

#483

maxjet

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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog

I prefer to use it as intended and what it was negotiated for.

I knew a few old freight dogs who could manage to spend it, but their lifestyle was like Charlie Harper. Booze and hookers.

06-13-2021, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by maxjet

I knew a few old freight dogs who could manage to spend it, but their lifestyle was like Charlie Harper. Booze and hookers.

Nothing wrong with that! You live only once! As for as the peanut butter and ramen noodle types they are the ones that croak quick and their mail order philipina bride collects.

06-13-2021, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CRJJ

Would you include Frontier in that group?

F9 pays crap, that is why they got the direct college grad flow so they can keep the wages bottom of the industry.

06-13-2021, 04:44 PM

#486

Joachim

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Originally Posted by CRJJ

Would you include Frontier in that group?

I’m referring to B6 and Spirit. Sun Country, Frontier, Allegiant is a little different kettle afaik.

06-13-2021, 04:56 PM

#487

Lockheed

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Originally Posted by Joachim

I’m referring to B6 and Spirit. Sun Country, Frontier, Allegiant is a little different kettle afaik.

JetBlue and Spirit have great contracts, there is no doubt

06-13-2021, 05:15 PM

#488

MoarAlpha

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Originally Posted by C2078

1375 hours of credit, obviously Per Diem doesn’t count. I guess doable 🤔

Had one 140+ month and the rest were 100-120 on my rotation.

The ICN Vortex was good to me like many others.

06-14-2021, 06:53 AM

#489

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Originally Posted by Joachim

I’m referring to B6 and Spirit. Sun Country, Frontier, Allegiant is a little different kettle afaik.

The rates are almost identical between Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant. You're saying the soft money differences are that huge?

06-14-2021, 07:19 AM

#490

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Originally Posted by Cujo665

The rates are almost identical between Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant. You're saying the soft money differences are that huge?

Yes. The soft money is where the difference lies. By looking at the pay rates you wouldn't think that a B6 E190 CA could make mid to high 300s but some do. There are Allegiant pilots who make that kind of money but they seem less common and are probably senior at the right bases.