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01-15-2021, 04:35 PM

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Lockheed

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Originally Posted by goinaround

I’ll just come out with it. The company wanted to negotiate a year before our contract became amendable. Fine. A bare bones yes/no survey came out a month before negotiations began. Sections were TA’d at record speed and only slowed when it got to retirement/pay. This leads me to believe that absolutely no effort was put into schedules/work rules, etc. Maybe I’ll eat my words when the TA comes out.....but I doubt that I will. We’ve done no favors for our Atlas friends who will likely be arbitrated in two months.

But I guess that you can say.....at the very least...that we will have gotten a defined contribution into the contract.

no effort..really

01-15-2021, 04:41 PM

#132

Lockheed

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oh and the Company did not want to negotiate 6 months earlier than the cba demands...but they did...the record pace was because there was no change to those sections

not one bit of this was easy..not a bit

01-15-2021, 05:32 PM

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No change to which sections?

01-15-2021, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by goinaround

No change to which sections?

don't have it infront of me..but if you look back in ur emails from a year ago..the TA from January
things like
dues check off
management rights
filling of vacancies
etc..

01-15-2021, 05:45 PM

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No change to which sections?

if we decided to re-negotiate the entire cba like last time....no sheet that takes 3 years min

01-15-2021, 05:50 PM

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we still do not have TA's on every Section or needed LOA....we working hard to get it completed

will be at least a week before we publish a comprehensive synopsis of the language changes

01-15-2021, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lockheed

if we decided to re-negotiate the entire cba like last time....no sheet that takes 3 years min

I’m aware. Which makes me upset that I’m likely going to have to vote yes to this. I’d have been happy to take an extra year or two to get some meaningful gains.

01-15-2021, 06:02 PM

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Atlas negotiating committee presented management with their proposal yesterday, waiting on a counter proposal. From what I have heard if they get anywhere close to what they proposed it will be far surpassing ours. Hopefully it gets approved and sets the ACMI bar a little higher.