Kalitta Air (K4) Information
12-13-2022, 04:38 AM
#4261
Line Holder
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 84
No, I’m asking these questions before I show up to training, in seven weeks from now. If I don’t like the responses I receive I can always change my mind. But I spoke with someone in the know and I’m more than satisfied with the conversation so it’s not an issue. Nobody needs to go out of their way to respond with answers to my questions.
12-13-2022, 07:24 AM
#4262
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 40
I just picked up my 777 new hire class date on 31 January. Are there any 777 pilots willing to chime in on the current day and life of a rotation? My guess is it’s probably somewhat different than the guys on the 747. What do the schedules look like? Are they 16 or 14 day lines? What’s the average monthly credit for pay? Is the schedule more consistent or loose and flexible like the 747? How long (or what’s the longest) will a crew layover in a hotel waiting for the next tail to rotate through? How often will you airline around the world to get in front of your jet?
This is not 100% exact. Layovers 24 -36 hrs usually. May vary.
I’m sure I’ll get grief too from this post.
12-13-2022, 11:00 PM
#4263
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Position: No Hats No Jackets No PAX
Posts: 1,559
lines are 14-16 day lines. Credit range on lines 64-95 hrs, however actual probably average 90-100. CVG-HNL-SYD-SIN-HKG-NGO-LAX-CVG, throw a CVG-BAH-HKG in there possibly.
This is not 100% exact. Layovers 24 -36 hrs usually. May vary.
I’m sure I’ll get grief too from this post.
This is not 100% exact. Layovers 24 -36 hrs usually. May vary.
I’m sure I’ll get grief too from this post.
12-16-2022, 02:56 PM
#4264
VHR-very happily retired
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Retired
Posts: 1,419
No, I’m asking these questions before I show up to training, in seven weeks from now. If I don’t like the responses I receive I can always change my mind. But I spoke with someone in the know and I’m more than satisfied with the conversation so it’s not an issue. Nobody needs to go out of their way to respond with answers to my questions.
12-20-2022, 12:35 PM
#4265
Line Holder
Joined APC: Sep 2017
Posts: 39
No Improvements on the horizon????
March "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
12-20-2022, 03:04 PM
#4266
Holding
Joined APC: Jan 2012
Posts: 209
March "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
12-20-2022, 03:04 PM
#4267
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: Licking the window
Posts: 461
March "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
12-20-2022, 03:21 PM
#4268
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 847
March "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
12-20-2022, 05:31 PM
#4269
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 259
12-21-2022, 05:13 AM
#4270
Polyester Pilot
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 513
March "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
April "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
May "Everyone says they want QOL improvements but that's different to each pilot, so we don't know what to focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
June "We know we need to make some adjustments to keep guys from leaving"(10-15 pilots leave)
July "The union is sending out a survey so we can see what the majority of guys want"(10-15 pilots leave)
Aug" The union survey should show us what guys want" (10-15 pilots leave)
Sept "The survey is gonna show us what we should focus on" (10-15 pilots leave)
Oct "The union has the survey and they're going to present it to us soon" (10-15 pilots leave)
Nov " We're meeting with the union this week to discuss grievances and the survey" (10-15 pilots leave)
Dec......................................????? 10 months of inaction (10-15 pilots leave)
Down 150-200 pilots in 2022 with NOTHING done to address the problem.
I am on the fence. I have opportunities (class dates, yes multiple), I don't want to leave, I am a 50+ Captain, decent seniority level. Convince me to stay. It's time to quit talking and do something!
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