JungleJetDriver

Flows and Callouts.
You'll receive student to student study guides and some really good material to study (not from the Company). I'm sure you'll have someone share the question bank from the CpAT that has the answers. Just make sure you reference the answers in the books to make sure they are correct.

Riverside

My instructor for international procedures, he spent most of the day talking about laser gyros and tracking ships in the pacific.

DMaloy85

Congrats on being selecting as a new hire! These are some great questions and hopefully the information below will be helpful.

-The initial training will be in YIP, however the training department are sending new hire 747 students to MIA for the simulator training on a volunteer basis. If you requested, I’m confident they would accommodate having you stay in YIP.

-If you do have a car, I would recommend bringing one so you may go to dinner or shop without having to wait for the van service.

-International procedures. Many will say that you learn this while flying, however if this concerns you based on your experience I would recommend looking into a few areas for self studying topics:

-Controller Pilot Data Link (CPDLC)
-Class I vs. Class 2 navigation
-Non RADAR reporting procedures
-HF radio procedures in Oceanic environments
-Selective Calling (SELCAL)
-North Atlantic Track Procedures
-Strategic Lateral Offset Procedures (SLOP)
-ICAO Phraseology
-Review IFR enroute charts symbology (i.e. Grid MORA, MEA, MOCA)
-Transition level/Transition Altitude
-Review VHHH (Hong Kong) and EHAM (Amsterdam) airport charts

Good luck on new hire training and I look forward to running into you out on the line!

Don M.

OffAirportAK

As someone who also started at K4 without previous international experience, I’d recommend thinking about the international ops part of it as Phase 2. Phase 1 is successfully making it through sim training and getting your type rating, none of which requires international ops knowledge. Focus on flows, callouts, systems, and limitations- those alone will keep you plenty busy. You’ll have enough time to go back to the books to learn the basics of international ops afterwards. By all means, try to absorb whatever you come across during Phase 1, but don’t let it distract you from your main objective, which is to learn the plane.

shroomwell

Huge second on the phraseology. I get so tired of people who think that the rest of the world is just a small extension of the good ol' USA! USA!USA! It isn't. You will be dealing with controllers with a myriad of accents and grasps of the English language. Many of them in many parts of the world really only know aviation English phraseology and not much more...they will be expecting you to say certain standard things to them and if you don't (slowly please), you'll end up causing confusion and a possible safety risk between them and you.

Also get in the habit of knowing what the "REF" pages of the Jepps are. Take a look at the pages for EHAM, VIDP, WSSS, and VHHH for example. Multiple pages of multiple procedures and multiple "gotchas" exist for these airports and many others you will visit.

goinaround

Checking in with Chinese controller: “Howdy Connie nine ohh two, level two six ohh. Err, actually that’s eight thousand meters….sorry bout that”

Don’t do that.

EzFlyerz

hello, noob here. my account is limited, so I couldn't start a new thread, which is where this question probably belongs.

I'm looking for a LONG and DETAILED post I read about a month ago with specific recommendations on how to approach 747 training. I think it was a few years old. yup yup...needle in a haystack.

It is NOT this one: (Kalitta Air (K4) Information), but it's like that one, except the one I'm looking for has A LOT more detail.

I'm 90% certain I read it in the Kalitta section somewhere, but after going through every post in this thread, and using search to find it, I'm not finding it.

Thanks for the help in advance, I'll go back and keep searching for it...maybe over to the Atlas section.

Lex11incheSteel

So the conundrum is I have been hired both at Alaska and Kalitta. Pros about Alaska is its a very stable legacy with fun domestic flying and a good growth projection almost doubling in size, I also live 15 minutes from LAX. Pros about Kalitta is home based and flying heavies all over the world with quite an adventure with excellent pay.
Which one?

anthony210

Alaska would seem the logical choice. Having said that as someone who also lives close to LAX, you will get a chance to be home a couple times per trip since a lot of the 777 and 747 flying flows through LAX. Also a lot of your lines will start and end in LAX which means no commuting on your last day off. Living near LAX will mean most months you’ll score an extra 2-3 days off, sometimes more.

Of course that could all change but that’s the way it is now and I don’t see LAX flying going away anytime soon in either fleet.

Alaska is due to get a new contract soon that will more than likely increase pay and work rules significantly and they are a legacy carrier that is stable.

goinaround

I’ve met guys that left here for Alaska, and guys that left Alaska for here. Depends on what works best for you and your family. If you can do the reserve from home…drive to work thing that’s a huge consideration.