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WhaleWrangler 05-22-2020 06:46 AM

If they do will probably require to resign seniority / recall rights to current employer.

MoarAlpha 05-22-2020 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler (Post 3061733)
If they do will probably require to resign seniority / recall rights to current employer.

True, but I don't think HR here is naive enough to not know that resigning/giving up recall rights are often ignored at mainline. It's even in some of their CBAs IIRC.

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Cujo665 05-30-2020 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by WhaleWrangler (Post 3061733)
If they do will probably require to resign seniority / recall rights to current employer.

That was the trend in the 80's and 90's. After 9-11 many of the places did not require them to resign their numbers. It worked out very well for places like JetBlue that got to see 8 & 9 year seniority Captains replaced by junior less expensive ones.

If they are anticipating a more than 2-3 year recovery/recall it could be financially advantageous to let them keep their number, and let them return before they start costing more money.

Lockheed 05-30-2020 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3067092)
That was the trend in the 80's and 90's. After 9-11 many of the places did not require them to resign their numbers. It worked out very well for places like JetBlue that got to see 8 & 9 year seniority Captains replaced by junior less expensive ones.

If they are anticipating a more than 2-3 year recovery/recall it could be financially advantageous to let them keep their number, and let them return before they start costing more money.

I believe they will re-hire guys that left, especially those in the recent past who will require little training to get back on the line...and they wont give up their numbers

Blackhawk 05-31-2020 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Lockheed (Post 3067260)
I believe they will re-hire guys that left, especially those in the recent past who will require little training to get back on the line...and they wont give up their numbers

Hopefully. Even before this hit, whenever I talked to a former K4 pilot none of us left because we were miserable there and it was usually a tough decision to leave. But if not, we made our beds and I understand.

727C47 06-01-2020 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by Blackhawk (Post 3067601)
Hopefully. Even before this hit, whenever I talked to a former K4 pilot none of us left because we were miserable there and it was usually a tough decision to leave. But if not, we made our beds and I understand.

it was an extremely tough decision for me, I loved K4 ✊😎😊

Blackhawk 06-01-2020 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by 727C47 (Post 3068115)
it was an extremely tough decision for me, I loved K4 ✊😎😊

Same here. Every trip was an adventure. Granted, by day 12 or so I was ready to go back home. But then after 10 days at home, I was ready to go back... and I think my wife was ready for me to go back.

RyeMex 06-01-2020 08:46 AM

Curious, what's the latest on negotiations over at K4?

Whalehunter 06-01-2020 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3068283)
Curious, what's the latest on negotiations over at K4?

Nothing new. I think the main 3 sections were presented at the last meeting in May.

MoarAlpha 06-01-2020 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by RyeMex (Post 3068283)
Curious, what's the latest on negotiations over at K4?

Who can be worried about a CBA when Microsoft Teams arrived! We are saved!


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