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Old 01-13-2020, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by goinaround
And this is relevant to a Kalitta Air Information thread.... how exactly?
Is this Mesa/freedom stuff we’re talking about? if so I fail to see the relevance as well. Just to be clear, I was taking the pi** out of everyone’s (including my own) enthusiasm from a year ago. Don’t know how it got turned into this.
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Old 01-13-2020, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Check the freedom A listers
There is a list of pilots out there that went to a new entity freedom airlines created by management in order toncircumvent negotiations and not pay a decent contract to the line pilots ..Some jumped on the opportunity to be captains out of seniority during section 6 and yes he did that.

Assume Kallitta starts a new 777 certificate while you are section 6 and you only flying 727 at that point while you negotiating rates for the 777 coming
And some FOs go for the upgrade out of seniority while you are negotiating rates

Me me and all about me
That’s what he did
Talking about integrity
But hey he brags about his 400k salary instructor and checkairman status
No respect from me
Money does not buy respect
Punctuation works wonders when trying to portray a message, this entire thing gave me a headache. I still have absolutely no idea what is trying to be said here.
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Old 01-13-2020, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by akpilotguy
Punctuation works wonders when trying to portray a message, this entire thing gave me a headache. I still have absolutely no idea what is trying to be said here.
Just a long drawn out personal attack that should have been taken care of in a PM.
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Old 01-13-2020, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper66
Check the freedom A listers
There is a list of pilots out there that went to a new entity freedom airlines created by management in order toncircumvent negotiations and not pay a decent contract to the line pilots ..Some jumped on the opportunity to be captains out of seniority during section 6 and yes he did that.

Assume Kallitta starts a new 777 certificate while you are section 6 and you only flying 727 at that point while you negotiating rates for the 777 coming
And some FOs go for the upgrade out of seniority while you are negotiating rates

Me me and all about me
That’s what he did
Talking about integrity
But hey he brags about his 400k salary instructor and checkairman status
No respect from me
Money does not buy respect
Thats not at all what is going on here.
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Old 01-13-2020, 04:01 PM
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Hey guys anyone have any updates on interviews resuming?
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Old 01-13-2020, 04:05 PM
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It is just a side note now, but the previous Mesa contract has bulletproof scope language that certain other carriers wished they had. Freedom was before my time at Mesa and apparently it still brings up hard feelings. The only thing I could connect to what might be relevant to us today is wasting negotiating capital on certain things. The bullet proof scope language as I was told, took up all of their negotiating capitol so another freedom would never exist, even to the point that pilots and FA's footed the bill for KCM..
When I made that meme, it was from a simple request. I am friends with Maxjet and in no way wanted to tag him in any of this stuff.
Sniper66 must be an old timer at Mesa, maybe even an old Dash guy.
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Old 01-13-2020, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerm
Hey guys anyone have any updates on interviews resuming?
My friend either got a call or made a phone call today and was told to expect a phone call mid February for a possible March interview.
I've personally have run into people (FO's) who are moving elsewhere, and with the seat lock removed, I would expect to see classes for all fleet types. But what do I know?
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Old 01-13-2020, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by maxjet

Those that jump ship to a pax major may see a flat growth for a few years as the economic slow down the world is seeing finally effects the US. Delta and others will hire until the day they furlough.
have you seen the retirement numbers at the legacy carriers?
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Old 01-13-2020, 04:50 PM
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I swore this was a K4 thread. Why we talking about regional airlines?
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Old 01-13-2020, 05:46 PM
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How is K4’s ETOPS certification coming? Two additional 777s in the next two months and no ETOPS?
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