I can't recommend JetBlue at this time
04-19-2017, 03:32 PM
#401
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Because you don't get to control everything because you think your way is correct. I'm sorry if you don't like my opinions but I have every right to post them as you do, it is America. Again I did not take issue with the stuff you pointed out (read that again) I simply said I don't see the negativity that you see. You dismissed that because of the plane I fly and the pilots I fly with. You have a real habit of basically saying that those that don't agree with you should not be entertained. Should I have said "well I want a cba so yeah everyone I fly with is negative" or I am sure you are now saying no but you could just not post and let the rest of us control the message. You were the guy who came up with a hashtag based on something I didn't say and your surprised I pushed back, that's what I don't get. But I grew up in NJ so arguing is in my nature.
And my hashtag wasn't meant as a literal quote, it captures the essence of what your message is or the impression it leaves. So, you own it even if it isn't a direct quote.
Go ahead. Push back against negative posts about your JB before we have peer compensation. Sounds totally logical to me.
04-20-2017, 03:56 AM
#402
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,236
Ok BlueJoe, I never said you CAN'T defend JetBlue, it is America after all. I said I can't understand WHY you would defend JetBlue before we have the CBA we deserve. Big difference.
And my hashtag wasn't meant as a literal quote, it captures the essence of what your message is or the impression it leaves. So, you own it even if it isn't a direct quote.
Go ahead. Push back against negative posts about your JB before we have peer compensation. Sounds totally logical to me.
And my hashtag wasn't meant as a literal quote, it captures the essence of what your message is or the impression it leaves. So, you own it even if it isn't a direct quote.
Go ahead. Push back against negative posts about your JB before we have peer compensation. Sounds totally logical to me.
Joe has never said things are getting better here so I'm not sure why he has to "own" that quote. Hyperboy is the one who said things continue to get better here.
04-20-2017, 06:13 AM
#403
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
That is the quote I assigned Joe for his multiple efforts to push back against those of us who are unsatisfied with our current working conditions and compensation.
The other one was just a snarky addition to a post, not attributed directly at Joe.
04-20-2017, 06:46 AM
#404
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,206
#itsnotreallythatbadsaysjoe
That is the quote I assigned Joe for his multiple efforts to push back against those of us who are unsatisfied with our current working conditions and compensation.
The other one was just a snarky addition to a post, not attributed directly at Joe.
That is the quote I assigned Joe for his multiple efforts to push back against those of us who are unsatisfied with our current working conditions and compensation.
The other one was just a snarky addition to a post, not attributed directly at Joe.
He specifically said he was not satisfied with his working conditions and compensation. He supports the negotiations and welcomes a good CBA. He just isn't negative. The negativity is what he pushes back against, as do I.
04-20-2017, 06:54 AM
#405
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Before management gives us the peer compensation and working conditions we have earned? Very logical.
04-20-2017, 07:39 AM
#406
Not A Janitor
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 814
I think BD's angst arises from certain people sounding too complacent with the status quo, which doesn't exactly signal to management the pilot group's deep frustration and lack of patience for major improvements. Actually it's the opposite.
Signed,
ATR--negative/realistic but optimistic, and highly supportive of our NC
P.S., which base has your V-file? I'll be sure to drop an ALPA lanyard in yours
04-20-2017, 08:39 AM
#408
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Right now negativity regarding current conditions is the reality. You just said so yourself in different words.
I think BD's angst arises from certain people sounding too complacent with the status quo, which doesn't exactly signal to management the pilot group's deep frustration and lack of patience for major improvements. Actually it's the opposite.
Signed,
ATR--negative/realistic but optimistic, and highly supportive of our NC
P.S., which base has your V-file? I'll be sure to drop an ALPA lanyard in yours
I think BD's angst arises from certain people sounding too complacent with the status quo, which doesn't exactly signal to management the pilot group's deep frustration and lack of patience for major improvements. Actually it's the opposite.
Signed,
ATR--negative/realistic but optimistic, and highly supportive of our NC
P.S., which base has your V-file? I'll be sure to drop an ALPA lanyard in yours
Shake all the Blue pom poms you want, AFTER a CBA that recognizes our sweat equity in this company and values us equal to our peers. Go crazy, knock yourself out! After, not before, after we are no longer compensated 30-40% below our peers.
Not that complicated.
04-20-2017, 08:59 AM
#409
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,206
I can't recommend JetBlue at this time
This is exactly my perception of the impression Joe and a few others leave.
Shake all the Blue pom poms you want, AFTER a CBA that recognizes our sweat equity in this company and values us equal to our peers. Go crazy, knock yourself out! After, not before, after we are no longer compensated 30-40% below our peers.
Not that complicated.
Shake all the Blue pom poms you want, AFTER a CBA that recognizes our sweat equity in this company and values us equal to our peers. Go crazy, knock yourself out! After, not before, after we are no longer compensated 30-40% below our peers.
Not that complicated.
I don't see Joe shaking any blue pom poms. But again, you don't have the right to tell him, or me, or anyone else how to feel or how to act. You do you.
04-20-2017, 09:04 AM
#410
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,931
#itsnotreallythatbadsaysjoe
That is the quote I assigned Joe for his multiple efforts to push back against those of us who are unsatisfied with our current working conditions and compensation.
The other one was just a snarky addition to a post, not attributed directly at Joe.
That is the quote I assigned Joe for his multiple efforts to push back against those of us who are unsatisfied with our current working conditions and compensation.
The other one was just a snarky addition to a post, not attributed directly at Joe.
Look fine, I'll send my posts to you first so the bluedriver minestry of truth and information about bluejetd can approve. How about that.
Look guys you can all have an opinion just don't push back against bluedriver......
#sticktothetalkinpoints.
Honestly how old are you. I am 35 but I feel like I am arguing with a 25 year old. You don't like a view so it must be exterminated and only your view point is valid. I am complacent but you and your group are the ones fighting the fight. With Air Wisconsin and JetBlue I have over 10 years as an ALPA volunteer helping pilots stay out of trouble, I wear my lanyard I follow SOP so spare me the you are a better union member because of your views and your tactics on the internet.
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