I can't recommend JetBlue at this time
12-30-2016, 12:03 PM
#201
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Posts: 660
This is a fight. Guys like you are holding our arms behind our backs. When the JD Power awards stop coming, and our NPS and D0 plummit, then and only then will they pay us industry average.
I hate doing it. I came here because I wanted to work somewhere with a great product that had a future. However, I will not be taken advantage of. I will not make 30% less and be treated worse than my peers and then go out-work them voluntarily. I didn't go to American because thier employees hated management, and management took everything it could from them. Now I look here and it's the same, the only difference is that at AA there are no juicers. Everyone rows in the same direction and they get paid and treated well.
Here we have people like you and P3 Bubba. You need to stop this nonsense and fight with us. When we get a CBA you can put the gloves back on and do a stand up routine every flight. I'll be right there with you.
I hate doing it. I came here because I wanted to work somewhere with a great product that had a future. However, I will not be taken advantage of. I will not make 30% less and be treated worse than my peers and then go out-work them voluntarily. I didn't go to American because thier employees hated management, and management took everything it could from them. Now I look here and it's the same, the only difference is that at AA there are no juicers. Everyone rows in the same direction and they get paid and treated well.
Here we have people like you and P3 Bubba. You need to stop this nonsense and fight with us. When we get a CBA you can put the gloves back on and do a stand up routine every flight. I'll be right there with you.
12-30-2016, 12:12 PM
#202
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,931
I like the last sentence. Management is responsible for the product via their responsibility to employee morale.
They want the product without any regard for employee morale. That doesn't work and many of us don't appreciate guys like hyperboy helping management do it.
I'm sure he's a great guy, but worry about our pilots first. When we have the contract we deserve, we can all help maintain the "product/brand".
They want the product without any regard for employee morale. That doesn't work and many of us don't appreciate guys like hyperboy helping management do it.
I'm sure he's a great guy, but worry about our pilots first. When we have the contract we deserve, we can all help maintain the "product/brand".
Again you and I agree totally.
I just don't like guys calling someone I know who does a lot to help our guys pathetic, he also said
Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT View Post
So you're saying blewjet is made up of rejects who couldn't get a job at the "competivate" airlines? This is a fallback place? That's exactly right, it is,
That was my problem.
12-30-2016, 12:55 PM
#203
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
This is a fight. Guys like you are holding our arms behind our backs. When the JD Power awards stop coming, and our NPS and D0 plummit, then and only then will they pay us industry average.
I hate doing it. I came here because I wanted to work somewhere with a great product that had a future. However, I will not be taken advantage of. I will not make 30% less and be treated worse than my peers and then go out-work them voluntarily. I didn't go to American because thier employees hated management, and management took everything it could from them. Now I look here and it's the same, the only difference is that at AA there are no juicers. Everyone rows in the same direction and they get paid and treated well.
Here we have people like you and P3 Bubba. You need to stop this nonsense and fight with us. When we get a CBA you can put the gloves back on and do a stand up routine every flight. I'll be right there with you.
I hate doing it. I came here because I wanted to work somewhere with a great product that had a future. However, I will not be taken advantage of. I will not make 30% less and be treated worse than my peers and then go out-work them voluntarily. I didn't go to American because thier employees hated management, and management took everything it could from them. Now I look here and it's the same, the only difference is that at AA there are no juicers. Everyone rows in the same direction and they get paid and treated well.
Here we have people like you and P3 Bubba. You need to stop this nonsense and fight with us. When we get a CBA you can put the gloves back on and do a stand up routine every flight. I'll be right there with you.
12-30-2016, 09:15 PM
#207
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
Pay for what you get. You want good pilots that go above and beyond only what they have to do reward us with money and benefits. We use to, and we lost benefits, were given mandatory unpaid training, compensation less than our less productive peers. Why go out of my way to give management a bonus.
12-30-2016, 09:30 PM
#208
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
I just found it ironic that's all.
I know hyperboy very well(we were sim partners) and while him and I disagree on many things he is the first guy to help a pilot out so when some guys start in on him I might say something. You should know by now I am very middle of the road. I have no problem telling the truth about JetBlue but what I do not like is the bashing of our own guys unless they goose step along with what others think. Its just a little out of control.
Oh are you a 190 guy juicer
Oh did you say goodbye to the passengers juicer
Wait you helped with a bag juicer
Your not ready to burn the place down juicer
Oh well I heard a story of a guy who did a stand up juicer
We are a bunch of rejects
Our pilots are weak
And on and on.
(Not talking about you just in general)
There is a huge gap between recruiting for blue and bashing our own.
That is all I am saying.
Now he does have a point.
People do like the product and yes people do like the PAs( I don't do them) but where he is wrong and where I bet you and I totally agree is if the ELT wants that level of service they need to pay for it.
The direction of this airline and the product as well as employee moral is totally up to the ELT.
I know hyperboy very well(we were sim partners) and while him and I disagree on many things he is the first guy to help a pilot out so when some guys start in on him I might say something. You should know by now I am very middle of the road. I have no problem telling the truth about JetBlue but what I do not like is the bashing of our own guys unless they goose step along with what others think. Its just a little out of control.
Oh are you a 190 guy juicer
Oh did you say goodbye to the passengers juicer
Wait you helped with a bag juicer
Your not ready to burn the place down juicer
Oh well I heard a story of a guy who did a stand up juicer
We are a bunch of rejects
Our pilots are weak
And on and on.
(Not talking about you just in general)
There is a huge gap between recruiting for blue and bashing our own.
That is all I am saying.
Now he does have a point.
People do like the product and yes people do like the PAs( I don't do them) but where he is wrong and where I bet you and I totally agree is if the ELT wants that level of service they need to pay for it.
The direction of this airline and the product as well as employee moral is totally up to the ELT.
01-01-2017, 07:45 PM
#210
The REAL Bluedriver
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,920
Ha, you defend JetBlue here, help JetBlue staff the airline by talking positively on here, worry about protecting JetBlue's"product" and most likely clean airplanes and do stand-up PA's.
But you go to union meetings! Wow.
But you go to union meetings! Wow.
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