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Old 12-19-2016, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Edpilot23
All of you please do leave ASAP!! That also helps negotiations. I'm pretty sure number 14599 at any of the big 3 will be a great place to start over at age 50 ��
14599 isn't that bad when 1000+ are leaving every year.
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Old 12-19-2016, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Edpilot23
All of you please do leave ASAP!! That also helps negotiations. I'm pretty sure number 14599 at any of the big 3 will be a great place to start over at age 50 ��
The old man (52 years) in my newhire class at United 18 months ago now sits 50% in his base with weekends off/all Hawaii flying, and will now clock this payscale on the 737-800/900 in the new year (with additional 3% raises going forward).

When I see him in Ops, he always has a smile on his face.

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Old 12-20-2016, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dontcare4U
Good luck to you and everyone else trying to leave for better things. Can't say I blame you. I've started at the bottom way too many times over the past 10 years that I'm hoping this is the last time. I have confidence that it will be, but time will tell....
Keep making posts like this one and it will only take LONGER to get the CBA we need.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
I'd ask a few guys you know over here before judging off an internet thread.

Remember, these guys have said as much...They'd prefer you don't come here because it helps our bargaining position.
And clearly your priority is to harm our bargaining position. Well done champ.
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
How short the pilot memory is. AA was a failed carrier, what 5 years ago? Failed as in bankrupt.

Things change quickly. I have faith in our negotiating committee, I even have faith in our management team to stay profitable. That conbination leads me to believe we're in a good position for a fair contract....(in way less than 5 years).
Or maybe all of 5 years+ if you can't help yourself from helping management recruit pilots. What are you doing???
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Old 12-20-2016, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Winston
The old man (52 years) in my newhire class at United 18 months ago now sits 50% in his base with weekends off/all Hawaii flying, and will now clock this payscale on the 737-800/900 in the new year (with additional 3% raises going forward).

When I see him in Ops, he always has a smile on his face.

Please, little Blue snowflakes don't like being told things can be good/better elsewhere.
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Old 12-20-2016, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
130K is over twice the median income in the US. Yep, I get it: responsible for people's lives. So is the guy that welded the hull together on the cruise ship. Well trained? Highly educated? So are physicians assistants that make 70-100K and work 40-50 hrs a week. Perspective.
Strange that Robin and the board don't seem to mind making millions. They must lack your perspective.
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Old 12-20-2016, 03:14 PM
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Man after reading this thread I definitely feel like I goofed up coming to JB.

Should've stuck it out at my regional that only had 2 years left on its contract flying or better yet go to Spirit or Frontier to wait for my impending call from the legacies. Because obviously life at Spirit and Frontier is SO much better. (Sarcasm)
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Old 12-20-2016, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
130K is over twice the median income in the US. Yep, I get it: responsible for people's lives. So is the guy that welded the hull together on the cruise ship. Well trained? Highly educated? So are physicians assistants that make 70-100K and work 40-50 hrs a week. Perspective.
Do PA's compare their wages to Starbucks Barista's?

No ... but pilots do!
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Old 12-20-2016, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
Do PA's compare their wages to Starbucks Barista's?

No ... but pilots do!
Yeah, I was going to call him out on that but -- I'm glad someone else did. I really have no (direct) dog in this fight.

We should never be comparing ourselves to anyone other than airline pilots. So we earn in the top 5% -- we absolutely deserve it. How many doctors do you know that rationalize their pay like that? How about Wall Street analysts who are thinking of asking for a raise: "You know, I make $800,000/year. My colleagues across the street at Goldman out-earn me by 20% but most Americans make $65K so I'll just grin and bear it." GMAFB, they get what they negotiate and what the market will bear. They don't have a moment's remorse. No equivocation, they get as much as they can.

We should have the same mindset.

Goodluck to all my jetBlue brothers.
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