uptpilot

I like your thinking. Do you have any documented references that can be used to legally validate what you just said? Distinguishing between "passriding" and "jumpseating" is indeed a brilliant technicality. I just want to make sure BJ doesn't use the two words interchangeably.

Softpayman

Liable for what? The FOM determines my responsibilities. I'm a pilot, not a professional non-revver. Non-revving rules, etiquitte or whatever you want to call them have zero bearing on my day to day work routine. ZERO.

Non-revving around isn't work or being on duty. So when someone brings up cleaning and work, I have no idea what they're talking about because pilots aren't required to clean while operating flights. I got 99 problems but cleaning planes is not one.

Stringfellow

I think that if we go into MyIDTravel to list for a flight on B6, we are for all purposes non-reving, and therefore are required to participate in "light cleaning," per the FOM and training. Truth is, it doesn't specify what that is. So, a couple folded seatbelts AFTER all customers are off, and we are in compliance, if I'm not mistaken. An OAL pilot riding B6 is jumpseating, as we would be on their airline.

N311JB

I respectfully disagree. We have to list on AA via MyID travel. It's simple. Captains brief the FA's who they want to come up from and check in. If you are not are asked, you are Non-reving not Pass riding. So next time you offer or are asked to sit in the jumpseat to get a S5 or S6 on board, ask yourself, are you a jumpseater? Next time when it comes down to seniority on getting on your ride home, are you a jumpseater? You're listed as an S4W not an S4 on MyID travel.

CaptCoolHand

Confusion?
Division?
Peer pressure?
Shame?
Fear?

Who would do such a thing? Why?
We have integrity fun and passion.

Stringfellow

Fair enough. It would be nice to have some official guidance from ALPA regarding this perspective. If you're correct, then that would solve the issue. Until then we only have the language in the FOM for guidance.

atrdriver

There you have it.

The true five JetBlue Core Values. Profits & Executive Compensation Above All!

uptpilot

B6Alpa.org

say again

That's the motto for most companies. I'm not sure why everyone is so surprised by this.

Hercbubba

Anybody else think Robin and Marty are lying about the January financials? 4th quarter profits and 2016 profits still finished above forecast. Making it sound as if the sky is falling because January looks to be lower than normal, and then saying we have to trim flights seems a little odd? I think they don't want to pay us, and this is there way of saying we should keep working with this ****ty agreement or we will have to furlough?
This absurd made up doom and gloom looks to be a very childish and an illegal tactic to make us settle for less. Nobody at the investors call on Thursday could explain why it was lower than expected. They gave no reason except weather and the holidays were the same week, leading to less travel? They knew the holiday dates years ago, and all of a sudden, Easter in April not March may lead to even less revenue?
I think they are trying to Jedi mind trick us into taking less money than we deserve! I say, **** the juice and wear the lanyard! I would rather risk furlough, than take less money. I am also within 100 from bottom, and not a captain making 12 yr pay. My 53/hr is pretty ****ty, so not sure how it could be any worse. Screw management...let's get what we deserve!!!