aldonite7667

Here's some gouge. Jump to the head of the line at the supermarket or Starbucks and see the reaction from those you skipped. That'll be your welcoming committee. I'm honestly trying to help you.

CanoeBum

Coopervane nailed it, other than the ever present millennial denigration. Our generation has worked hard and some even flew combat to get here too... Gateway selects don't have to be under 35 to get invited unless I've missed something. Expect a cold shoulder should you pursue this program, you won't be making many friends.

chucknorris

All I'll say is that at 50% on the B6 seniority list ill treat you as any other pilot... for good and bad. Ill be your captain, you had better be up to snuff. (and I'm not a dick up front) Ive worked at the regionals with 300hr FOs, I'm not cool with baby sitting anymore. Hopefully the training works out for you all. You got really lucky to skip all the heartache a lot of us had to endure... the last thing we will do is give you gouge to continue your shortcut.

WhiteHammer

Like I previous said, hate the program not the people in it. Just like it was the industry that screwed your buddies stuck at regionals, not them personally. I don't like the program either, but to take it out on the ones doing it is rather immature. That would be like a military dude that couldn't afford flight training and had to get all his hours through deployments hating guys that had mommy and daddy pay for Embry Riddle and make it to the majors before them.

Whoathereeasy

That's how I feel about the program, everyone is going to take the opportunity that is presented to them. If the best course of action for me now, depending on my circumstances, is the gateway select, then I am going to take it. A buddy of mine has 10k hours and back when he started, he took the best opportunity available to him at that time, just like most of the people now in the cockpit. It's no different then Wall Street hiring guys off the college, or lawyers having a job before graduating from top universities. JetBlue is a great airline, everyone agrees, so the training given by JetBlue would also be "Ivy League" of airline training. It's only 20 pilots a year, starting in 2021, that's 5 years from now, all the qualified pilots in the pool right now, still have 5 years before the first candidate is even given a class date for QT, and even after 5 years 20'pilots a year is not going to fulfill the hiring need. This program is not stepping on anyone's toes, or undermining the training or experience, it is simply an innovative way to ensure a steady supply of reserve pilots starting in 2021. I heard Delta is also considering similar, might be a rumor can't really say, but it comes from inside. All the people complaining about wanting to get with JetBlue will get sucked to legacies when the retirement starts rolling in, increasing the age from 60 to 65 was just a temporary solution to a permanent problem. Don't worry fellow aviators, there is and will be plenty of seats available to fill, gateway select or not.

Beechnut

It's always the guys with no experience that tell you "you don't need experience."

Whoathereeasy

I didn't know that this program is simply bring a cashiers check to JB and get a seat in the cockpit. Is it .

I thought the candidates have to go through a rigorous selection process, only 24 chosen from 1000's of application based on the ability to multitask, aptitude and personality to be able to multitask under pressure and after that go thru a 15 months training VS 180 day trading at ATP, same ratings... Than work additional 2 years as CFI, then get a new hire date. Having to pass everything at every stage, failed check ride, go home and keep your money.

May be I am wrong, may be it just is bring mommy and daddy's check book and write a check and bid on a flight tomorrow as an FO. I can surely understand your concerns !!

likeitis

Right there should be a disqualifier for anyone who decides to do this. Anyone who would decide to do this obviously has flawed decision skills.

GuppyPuppy

I think maybe you should be asking the questions in the interview.

What happens if JB is bought before you finish the program?

What happens if, for any reason the program is terminated before you finish?

What happens if you need to interrupt your own training for whatever reason?

What happens if, for any reason the company decides not to hire you as a pilot?

There is so much that could happen over the next 5 years to derail this program. Downturn in the economy. Terrorist attacks. Mergers. Acquisitions. Oil spike. Zika. Meteors!

What I'm saying is that unless you actually get the job you could have a $125k hole in your pocket and a CFII/MEI certificate that may have little value.

Any training program can teach most people which buttons to push. It will be your lack of experience which will come back to bite you (and maybe me, my family and 100-200+ people). Experience cannot be taught. I'd much rather have someone with several thousand hours of left and right seat time in a variety of aircraft than some fresh, excited newb marveling at all the lights, screens and switches. I've flown with some very low experienced pilots. While they generally do a decent job of flying it's the out-of-the-ordinary things they have difficulty with.

Again, you can't teach experience.

GP

Sennaha

Just discourage it. That will be fine.