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Old 09-07-2020, 03:47 AM
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I’d be hanging a big ole fist middle finger extended if I belonged to that pilot group if you talked that way to me. What a dick!
He is. You nailed it.
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Old 09-10-2020, 05:11 AM
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Two dozen new routes this winter just announced, that’ll allow about a dozen planes back into service. Looks like EWR is heavily in their future plans.
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Old 09-10-2020, 06:26 AM
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Two dozen new routes this winter just announced, that’ll allow about a dozen planes back into service. Looks like EWR is heavily in their future plans.
Looks like a few more flights out of RDU too
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Looks like a few more flights out of RDU too
Announced today that Envoy is closing it's NY Crew Base for AA because JetBlue is the new regional airline that will handle NY flying. Congrats to JetBlue!
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Old 09-10-2020, 08:17 AM
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Announced today that Envoy is closing it's NY Crew Base for AA because JetBlue is the new regional airline that will handle NY flying. Congrats to JetBlue!
So you’re saying the industry is getting rid of outsourced, underpaid labor in favor of using organic, in house, well-compensated labor? Sounds like a win for the industry. Except the deal hasn’t been approved yet. So, I’m guessing AA’s strategy includes shrinking NYC RJs with or without JB.
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So you’re saying the industry is getting rid of outsourced, underpaid labor in favor of using organic, in house, well-compensated labor? Sounds like a win for the industry. Except the deal hasn’t been approved yet. So, I’m guessing AA’s strategy includes shrinking NYC RJs with or without JB.
I believe the problem is that Unionized pilots are going out of their way to further degrade scope. Flying an Airbus as a regional feed is a slippery slope...especially when JB pays less than AA. This will eliminate some of the highest paying jobs in the industry for a lower B-Scale airbus regional feed.
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Old 09-10-2020, 08:40 AM
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I believe the problem is that Unionized pilots are going out of their way to further degrade scope. Flying an Airbus as a regional feed is a slippery slope...especially when JB pays less than AA. This will eliminate some of the highest paying jobs in the industry for a lower B-Scale airbus regional feed.
Lol...
1) JB has the tightest scope in the industry behind SWA.
2) AA’s poor scope allowed this.
3) in NYC a lot of AA regional flying, and some NB flying, was going away anyway.
4) JB’s E190 rates are higher than AA’s, and certainly higher than ENY’s E145 rates.
5) JB airbus rate goes to $275 next year, and has $13/hr redeye pay. AA is what, $278/279? Yeah...huge difference.
6) Do you even know what a B scale is? You sound like an inexperienced regional guy with not a lot of industry knowledge or experience.
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Old 09-10-2020, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
I believe the problem is that Unionized pilots are going out of their way to further degrade scope. Flying an Airbus as a regional feed is a slippery slope...especially when JB pays less than AA. This will eliminate some of the highest paying jobs in the industry for a lower B-Scale airbus regional feed.
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Old 09-10-2020, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
I believe the problem is that Unionized pilots are going out of their way to further degrade scope. Flying an Airbus as a regional feed is a slippery slope...especially when JB pays less than AA. This will eliminate some of the highest paying jobs in the industry for a lower B-Scale airbus regional feed.
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve read on here in awhile. Top end pay rate difference is less than $10/hour which is easily made up here because our contract is flat out better than AA’s in almost every QOL area. You know the parts that really matter.
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Old 09-10-2020, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DoNoHarm
I believe the problem is that Unionized pilots are going out of their way to further degrade scope. Flying an Airbus as a regional feed is a slippery slope...especially when JB pays less than AA. This will eliminate some of the highest paying jobs in the industry for a lower B-Scale airbus regional feed.
I'm sorry but can you point to where the LOA degraded scope? No scope language was changed. They granted permission to enter a codeshare agreement during a time where when you look back 12 months, you can see that the company's block hours are reduced from last year's level. Has any company's block hours increased compared to 2019 levels? This was a one-time grant since our flying like every other company is lower than the 2019 level.

So again, point to where the scope concession is?

I wish everyone the best but dividing and spewing false information isn't going to help.
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