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Old 08-28-2020, 07:10 PM
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:39 PM
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Yeah, it’s good to see mgmt pursuing growth opportunities where it makes sense.
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:42 PM
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Old news....
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
AA is furloughing because it has been badly mismanaged and buried ITSELF under a mountain of debt. Not because they are coordinating with JB in NYC/BOS, which they had been slowly being run out of by JB/DL.

I just can't say it anymore bluntly, or honestly.
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:56 PM
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He’s trying to find someone to blame for his own company’s failings (as well as the shortcomings of his own scope that he voted in). Product of the 2020 victim culture. And those big bad jetblue pilots are to blame. Sad.
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Old 08-28-2020, 07:59 PM
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AA is furloughing because it has been badly mismanaged and buried ITSELF under a mountain of debt. Not because they are coordinating with JB in NYC/BOS, which they had been slowly being run out of by JB/DL.

I just can't say it anymore bluntly, or honestly.

Pretty sure all the furloughs are due to lack of flying.
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Pretty sure all the furloughs are due to lack of flying.
Agree. But the insinuation that it was due to blue pilots has been strong since the announcement. Also, the bulk of AA’s debt isn’t due to lack of flying. It existed pre-covid, which is I think what bluedriver was getting at. Not that it really matters at this point though. Everyone’s got debt through the roof now.
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Old 08-28-2020, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Old news....
I think we’ll see a few more soon.
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Old 08-29-2020, 02:51 AM
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Pretty sure all the furloughs are due to lack of flying.
All airlines are experiencing a lack of demand/flying. Not all airlines are furloughing. Some are much more able to weather this storm due to the business decisions, business strategies and the debt loads they carried pre-COVID.

AA has to furlough, in part, because the debt load they buried THEMSELVES under pre-COVID was barely sustainable before the virus, and impossibly crushing in a recession/pandemic. AA was the lowest margin US airline pre-COVID, just barely in the black. That was during some of the best times for airlines in history. Now is one of the worst times in history and the debt load has only gone UP. What did you think was going to happen?

In BOS/NYC AA has slowly been pushed towards the point of irrelevancy by JB and DL. DL has also been highly aggressive towards AA in other important markets because they were strong and AA was weak. Without a partnership with JB in BOS/NYC, this trend was going to continue and likely accelerate. How do you think that ends for you with pilot staffing??? Not well.

This codeshare between JB and AA in BOS/NYC is yet another hail Mary pass by AA to be relevant in BOS/NYC and it is also my very strong opinion that there is NO possible way AA doesn't go through chapter 11 restructuring (not saying I want this) and AA management KNOWS this to be true, so this is also AA management picking it's successor in BOS/NYC, and choosing that successor to NOT be DL.

The bad news for you is this isn't likely to be the last furlough announcement by AA, which again I wish wasn't true, and your management is already checking the bankruptcy court calendar for openings that don't interfere with Doug's tee times or holiday weeks.

Your JB Derangement Syndrome is wholly misguided, you need to look inward for where your problems originate.
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