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07-16-2020, 05:14 PM
#9062
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,928
Delta vs Jetblue
Just thought I’d bring this up again. Man, reading that whole thread from 6 or 7 months ago today...glad I didn’t take your advice.
Just thought I’d bring this up again. Man, reading that whole thread from 6 or 7 months ago today...glad I didn’t take your advice.
Don’t worry he won’t admit to being wrong. To quote our COO he will just double down on JetBlue bad everyone else amazing.
07-16-2020, 05:29 PM
#9063
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: 320 F.O.
Posts: 1,386
Delta vs Jetblue
Just thought I’d bring this up again. Man, reading that whole thread from 6 or 7 months ago today...glad I didn’t take your advice.
Just thought I’d bring this up again. Man, reading that whole thread from 6 or 7 months ago today...glad I didn’t take your advice.
07-16-2020, 05:46 PM
#9064
Eating A Gruben
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,065
Absolutely no ill will towards AA pilots, but when they accepted employment at AA they also accepted the contract in place at the time.
It's just a basic truth that AA furloughs were inevitable once COVID19 started to take off again in the US. This codeshare is NOT the reason for AA furloughs, and I ultimately hope AA does not furlough.
It's just a basic truth that AA furloughs were inevitable once COVID19 started to take off again in the US. This codeshare is NOT the reason for AA furloughs, and I ultimately hope AA does not furlough.
07-16-2020, 06:37 PM
#9065
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: blueJet
Posts: 4,534
If everyone could update their profile with their airline, so we knew which airline you’re talking about, that would be great. Or, just mention which airline you’re referring to instead of saying “my airline...” “your airline...” and “his airline...”
07-16-2020, 06:38 PM
#9066
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 363
I don't know about you, but before I applied to airlines I researched their scope protections. Since, you know, that is job security and all. You either go to an airline ignorant to your job protections and whine when your contract is used against you, or you go to an airline aware of the deficiencies in your job protection language and work to improve it and hope it doesn't bite you in the rear before it can be improved. The pilot group signed on to that scope clause, and for better or worse they have to live with it. Projecting that on another pilot group that had no hand in maxing out your scope clause is petty and immature.
07-16-2020, 06:40 PM
#9067
Eating A Gruben
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,065
Talk about an awful argument.
I don't know about you, but before I applied to airlines I researched their scope protections. Since, you know, that is job security and all. You either go to an airline ignorant to your job protections and whine when your contract is used against you, or you go to an airline aware of the deficiencies in your job protection language and work to improve it and hope it doesn't bite you in the rear before it can be improved. The pilot group signed on to that scope clause, and for better or worse they have to live with it. Projecting that on another pilot group that had no hand in maxing out your scope clause is petty and immature.
I don't know about you, but before I applied to airlines I researched their scope protections. Since, you know, that is job security and all. You either go to an airline ignorant to your job protections and whine when your contract is used against you, or you go to an airline aware of the deficiencies in your job protection language and work to improve it and hope it doesn't bite you in the rear before it can be improved. The pilot group signed on to that scope clause, and for better or worse they have to live with it. Projecting that on another pilot group that had no hand in maxing out your scope clause is petty and immature.
07-16-2020, 07:10 PM
#9068
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 201
Other than credit caps (which I’m surprised the company and the union weren’t all over) I’d say the LOA is spot on. Any AA pilot that feels like Jetblue screwed them and got them furloughed probably wants to check how the agreement benefits both companies add flying and keep jobs at the given airline. Jetblue kept pilots off the street at least for a bit. If American does or doesn’t you probably want to take that up with management and your union or god. Just that unnecessary jealousy is not what we need in times like these.
07-17-2020, 02:48 AM
#9069
Clear ECAM
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 934
Is this a bad joke? Bro, half your flying is outsourced. Where the hell are you getting ‘we gave up scope’ from? And the 5 hours comes with 2 more days off with snap backs in place. Again, to sit home and do nothing. I haven’t flown since the beginning of May. Our union hit this one out of the park. They literally could not have done a better job.
07-17-2020, 04:15 AM
#9070
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Posts: 369
Reserves already sit at home and get paid for no work. That's the whole concept of reserve. its a 100% cost savings for the company and 100% cost for pilots who are now getting paid less money. The logic of "they get to sit at home", well pilots who get furloughed get to sit at home too. I'm shocked JBALPA didn't let this go to Membership Ratification.
Our furlough avoidance plan comes out today. I'm hoping there are no concessions like the one in the JB deal.
Our furlough avoidance plan comes out today. I'm hoping there are no concessions like the one in the JB deal.
Yes. It's a cost saving measure to keep EVERYONE employed and on property. Making 70hrs of pay for an almost guarantee to not fly while on reserve vs being furloughed? Yeah I'll take the 5 less hours per month and 2 additional hard days off vs being handed a pink slip.
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