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Old 07-16-2020, 07:59 AM
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I really wish we would’ve stayed away from AAG and their nonsense.
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Old 07-16-2020, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
AA dudes are PlSSED...
what’s their “take” on it? I haven’t seen any reactions yet.
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Old 07-16-2020, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
AA dudes are PlSSED...
why are they mad at us? 4100 pilots were just sitting around with are hands in our pockets doing nothing. Not like we had any say in the matter? Sounds like they should go to their management and ask wtf
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Old 07-16-2020, 08:13 AM
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I’m ****ed B6ALPA violated their own policy manual with regards to lowering contractual pay without memrat. I suspect there will be recalls. That said, I’m more ok with it because they didn’t drop line holder guarantee and just made line and reserve guarantee the same...and knocked off 2 days. So 2 more days off and the same credit if I just UTOd a day in normal times which I sometimes did. Work less, make less.

I’d have likely voted yes, but this needed to go to a vote.

And no credit caps? The wh0res should have been limited.
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Old 07-16-2020, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wipeout
Have you had your head in the sand the past several months? Maybe you haven’t noticed the 90% plus drop in passenger demand this year. JetBlue is hemorrhaging money, and your *****in about a 5 hr reduction!?! This action keeps your fellow pilots employed and allows them to care of their families. Pilots will complain about anything, unreal.

It's just not even worth arguing with people anymore. It's laughable that on the other site guys are *****ing that a senior capt will lose $9000/year. Yeah, hope the other 250k makes up for it.

I've worked a total of 5 days since April, and I'm gonna get a sizeable paycheck at the end of this year just like the rest of you. It blows me away that people are complaining about a reduction in pay when every other pilot group is receiving WARN letters, or have completely lost their jobs like many corporate guys already have.Not to mention our own company is losing many above/below wing positions.

This is absolute best case scenario with what's happening in the world. I think the union did a great job with this, and if it opens up more gates in LAX, NYC and possibly even slots for us in London and other European destinations in 2022+ than this is a huge win for us.
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Old 07-16-2020, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
It's just not even worth arguing with people anymore. It's laughable that on the other site guys are *****ing that a senior capt will lose $9000/year. Yeah, hope the other 250k makes up for it.

I've worked a total of 5 days since April, and I'm gonna get a sizeable paycheck at the end of this year just like the rest of you. It blows me away that people are complaining about a reduction in pay when every other pilot group is receiving WARN letters, or have completely lost their jobs like many corporate guys already have.Not to mention our own company is losing many above/below wing positions.

This is absolute best case scenario with what's happening in the world. I think the union did a great job with this, and if it opens up more gates in LAX, NYC and possibly even slots for us in London and other European destinations in 2022+ than this is a huge win for us.
this ^^^^^

It is exactly how I see it too!!
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Old 07-16-2020, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
We have a lot of selfish pilots here at JB that would have undoubtedly voted to put you and I on the street if it saved them a dollar. How many captains are being paid 15 grand to sit at home and do nothing? They don’t care about anybody else’s family-that’s evident now. So now we’re getting 70 instead of 75 hours to do nothing (with 2 extra days off)...with snap backs in place. Or until we actually do get furloughed next May. Line holders are working for their money. Should it have went to a vote? Yea, it probably should have. But thank God the union looked out for us. It’s pretty apparent how our ‘brothers’ would have voted.
Talk about a wide brush. You start off with 'selfish' ( when Phil was talking about the PRINCIPLE) and then you continue on with ' should it have went to a vote, yea' And then you end with ' apparent how our brothers would have voted". No emoji, so I'm assume you're serious?

Of course this would have passed if it went to a vote.
If you want to be ****ed, figure out how there aren't any credit caps...the Wh0res must have sent some pizzas.
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Old 07-16-2020, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
It's just not even worth arguing with people anymore. It's laughable that on the other site guys are *****ing that a senior capt will lose $9000/year. Yeah, hope the other 250k makes up for it.

I've worked a total of 5 days since April, and I'm gonna get a sizeable paycheck at the end of this year just like the rest of you. It blows me away that people are complaining about a reduction in pay when every other pilot group is receiving WARN letters, or have completely lost their jobs like many corporate guys already have.Not to mention our own company is losing many above/below wing positions.

This is absolute best case scenario with what's happening in the world. I think the union did a great job with this, and if it opens up more gates in LAX, NYC and possibly even slots for us in London and other European destinations in 2022+ than this is a huge win for us.
this. Agree 100%.


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Old 07-16-2020, 09:37 AM
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Somebody please explain how this allows JB to access London Heathrow Slots which are the only ones in London that matter? Blue juice hitting a bit too hard on that one..l
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Old 07-16-2020, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp
Somebody please explain how this allows JB to access London Heathrow Slots which are the only ones in London that matter? Blue juice hitting a bit too hard on that one..l
Who says that it does specifically?
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