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Old 07-05-2020, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Desdi
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Edited since you edited yours

What I said is it would make a lot more sense to transition 900ish 190 guys to the 320 and 220 than put a bunch of people in an untrained (or even trained) 190 status, requiring 2 months of training to a new status once they are needed in the fleets that will stay at jetblue.

If everyone is 320/220 qual’d on lower ALVs and flying a lot less, with credit caps, everyone stays flying, reserves still get used, and people are trained and in the seat/equipment needed to match demand recovery as it happens, which isn’t the case if they are 190 and maybe/maybe not even trained. Then we’d still have the need to transition them and eat the training float when revenue generating pilots are actually needed on the line and not in the sim.

Also, there is a lot of cost savings to be had by eliminating the 190 fleet.

We will likely find out in the next week or so...

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Old 07-05-2020, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by copy
Edited since you edited yours

What I said is it would make a lot more sense to transition 900ish 190 guys to the 320 and 220 than put a bunch of people in an untrained (or even trained) 190 status, requiring 2 months of training to a new status once they are needed in the fleets that will stay at jetblue.

If everyone is 320/220 qual’d on lower ALVs and flying a lot less, with credit caps, everyone stays flying, reserves still get used, and people are trained and in the seat/equipment needed to match demand recovery as it happens, which isn’t the case if they are 190 and maybe/maybe not even trained. Then we’d still have the need to transition them and eat the training float when revenue generating pilots are actually needed on the line and not in the sim.

Also, there is a lot of cost savings to be had by eliminating the 190 fleet.

We will likely find out in the next week or so...
We shall see, I’m just speculating as are you, don’t want anyone to get hit by anything unexpected! Am I not allowed to edit?!
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Old 07-05-2020, 04:33 PM
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Look these are all great ideas. I personally like the dude who said sone thing about pay or blah blah garbage garbage. (Didn’t really read the whole post) Interesting theory on paper except for the fact that the email says “no changes to CBA pay” or something like that.

AAL merger seems super legit too.

but let’s be honest. They are gunna take our CSPP money. That’s the significance of the May 1 date. Stop your cspp now!
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Old 07-05-2020, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Desdi
We shall see, I’m just speculating as are you, don’t want anyone to get hit by anything unexpected! Am I not allowed to edit?!
Nope, totally allowed to. Just wanted to state my reason for editing my response.

And I’m all for speculation of ideas and discussing the pros and cons or validity of each, hence why I come on here lol.

And at this point in 2020, I don’t think anything they tell us regarding the LOA, NDA, plan, etc. would be unexpected, no matter what it is. Even if it included murder hornets or Ebola bunnies.
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Old 07-05-2020, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by copy
Nope, totally allowed to. Just wanted to state my reason for editing my response.

And I’m all for speculation of ideas and discussing the pros and cons or validity of each, hence why I come on here lol.

And at this point in 2020, I don’t think anything they tell us regarding the LOA, NDA, plan, etc. would be unexpected, no matter what it is. Even if it included murder hornets or Ebola bunnies.
U forgot space aliens!..... wholeheartedly agree with everything u just wrote.
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Old 07-06-2020, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800
A merger would be a worst case scenario. Especially with American. We want nothing to do with any of that.
Right back at ya.

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Old 07-06-2020, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
Right back at ya.

come on al. It’d be great. All those USAir guys getting super senior spots decades in front of their initial hire dates. Omg itd be an epic integration. So much happiness.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
come on al. It’d be great. All those USAir guys getting super senior spots decades in front of their initial hire dates. Omg itd be an epic integration. So much happiness.

We’d be a turd in your good culture punch bowl.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Czervik
We’d be a turd in your good culture punch bowl.
LoL

You have to first define culture.
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Old 07-06-2020, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
LoL

You have to first define culture.
I think I see the sweet spot!

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