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Old 06-03-2019, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
You think I'm hurting our pilot group by having confidence in us to overcome the ineptitude of our CS and leadership? That's certainly a different take on things.

Perhaps in your mind this summer will be mo betterly managed than in the past, but I doubt it. Let's rehash it in October and see who was more correct.
Its called "enabling". Management counts on it and banks it. We don't need process control or accountability because the pilots will overcome and get the job done. It only teaches management one thing.

Their plan is working.

This place is bipolar. On one hand, they look down at us but at the same time, they count own our 'professionalism' to get the operation moving.
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Old 06-03-2019, 10:36 PM
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Its called "enabling". Management counts on it and banks it. We don't need process control or accountability because the pilots will overcome and get the job done. It only teaches management one thing.

Their plan is working.

This place is bipolar. On one hand, they look down at us but at the same time, they count own our 'professionalism' to get the operation moving.
And BECAUSE we are professionals, and good at what we do, we will continue to make it work.
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Old 06-04-2019, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
And BECAUSE we are professionals, and good at what we do, we will continue to make it work.
Like I said it hurts the group to keep enabling management.

You are a proud enabler.

Keep it up and you will teach 'em to do worse. That is the lessoned learned.

Being professional is sitting there saying: "No thank you", except in the bizarro world of BlueJet, it has turned into let me do that for you, and you, and you, and you.

You were not here when our "Most Celebrated Captain" wrote the pilot group (via corp comm) that he did not have time to do his job, you know being the captain because he was so busy doing so many other things. That was being "blueJet professional". That is the culture that bluejet wants (sent via corporate communications) and you are proudly enabling it.

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Old 06-04-2019, 07:33 AM
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Like I said it hurts the group to keep enabling management.

You are a proud enabler.

Keep it up and you will teach 'em to do worse. That is the lessoned learned.

Being professional is sitting there saying: "No thank you", except in the bizarro world of BlueJet, it has turned into let me do that for you, and you, and you, and you.

You were not here when our "Most Celebrated Captain" wrote the pilot group (via corp comm) that he did not have time to do his job, you know being the captain because he was so busy doing so many other things. That was being "blueJet professional". That is the culture that bluejet wants (sent via corporate communications) and you are proudly enabling it.
If flying a plane safely from point A to point B is your definition of being a "proud enabler", then I am guilty as charged. Do you fly planes here?
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
If flying a plane safely from point A to point B is your definition of being a "proud enabler", then I am guilty as charged. Do you fly planes here?
TMAAT when you saw the operation falling apart! What did you do?

Did you wait for them to figure it out or did you solve the problems for them?

Do you even understand what the expectation is?

Do you understand the company admitted as much with the "you are a franchise owner" slogan? Where you here for that iteration of "we need you, but look down at you at the same time".

No ... you just entered the almost two-decade-long story towards the end and thought you understood the history and context of why we're at exactly where we are at.

So please ... learn us something about your year and year and year on property and how cool it is to know JS by his first name and how special you feel about being on an interview team or whatever committee you are on!

Grow up, Skippy!
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
If flying a plane safely from point A to point B is your definition of being a "proud enabler", then I am guilty as charged. Do you fly planes here?
Then only do your job of flying the plane. Don’t go above and beyond getting that plane into the air. When you do crew services job by calling 5 hours early to let them know you are going to go over fdp, or to let them know what ever else you are hurting yourself. When you keep doing maintenance job by calling and calling to get them to the plane you are hurting yourself. When you have to call for gas 5 times even though they know the plane can’t fly without it, you are hurting yourself. When you call about a deadhead you were supposed to have a ticket for and they never booked it for you, you are hurting yourself. If you stop doing everyone else’s job the place falls apart. Then the place will be forced to grow up and become an airline that can take care of itself. Your life will be about flying the plane safely from points A-B. It’s not a hard concept to understand.
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
Its called "enabling". Management counts on it and banks it. We don't need process control or accountability because the pilots will overcome and get the job done. It only teaches management one thing.

Their plan is working.

This place is bipolar. On one hand, they look down at us but at the same time, they count own our 'professionalism' to get the operation moving.
This should be mandatory reading for BlueJet pilots.

360, read this slowly, then read it again.
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
Like I said it hurts the group to keep enabling management.

You are a proud enabler.

Keep it up and you will teach 'em to do worse. That is the lessoned learned.

Being professional is sitting there saying: "No thank you", except in the bizarro world of BlueJet, it has turned into let me do that for you, and you, and you, and you.

You were not here when our "Most Celebrated Captain" wrote the pilot group (via corp comm) that he did not have time to do his job, you know being the captain because he was so busy doing so many other things. That was being "blueJet professional". That is the culture that bluejet wants (sent via corporate communications) and you are proudly enabling it.
More MANDATORY reading 360. Try and actually UNDERSTAND the message instead of trying to win the internet argument.
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Old 06-04-2019, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
TMAAT when you saw the operation falling apart! What did you do?

Did you wait for them to figure it out or did you solve the problems for them?

Do you even understand what the expectation is?

Do you understand the company admitted as much with the "you are a franchise owner" slogan? Where you here for that iteration of "we need you, but look down at you at the same time".

No ... you just entered the almost two-decade-long story towards the end and thought you understood the history and context of why we're at exactly where we are at.

So please ... learn us something about your year and year and year on property and how cool it is to know JS by his first name and how special you feel about being on an interview team or whatever committee you are on!

Grow up, Skippy!
More MANDATORY reading 360. Read it slowly. 10 times minimum since you aren't getting it.

BlueJetDork is on a reality-roll.
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Old 06-04-2019, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Then only do your job of flying the plane. Don’t go above and beyond getting that plane into the air. When you do crew services job by calling 5 hours early to let them know you are going to go over fdp, or to let them know what ever else you are hurting yourself. When you keep doing maintenance job by calling and calling to get them to the plane you are hurting yourself. When you have to call for gas 5 times even though they know the plane can’t fly without it, you are hurting yourself. When you call about a deadhead you were supposed to have a ticket for and they never booked it for you, you are hurting yourself. If you stop doing everyone else’s job the place falls apart. Then the place will be forced to grow up and become an airline that can take care of itself. Your life will be about flying the plane safely from points A-B. It’s not a hard concept to understand.
To pile on, stop doing the FA’s job. If they need catering, water, lube, whatever, tell them they are allowed to get off the plane and use the phone in the jetway. That, as I’m told, is how it is suppose be done via their manual. Each time they interrupt us is another hole in the cheese. I’ve closed the door plenty of times on yappy FA’s.
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